Did a search; I was expecting a little more from something that's supposed to be the 2nd coming of the RFX.... anyway is it really another RFX -- a true freeride bike? Or is this thing lighter and more "trail-oriented"? I'm a solid 2 bills and I ride pretty hard so I don't wanna end up trashing another sweet frame if I should be looking elsewhere. Just wondering if anybody on here has any done any real riding on one yet....
Anybody get much ride time in on a Six-Pack?
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Go check the MTBR turner forum. I know that a few guys there have them and have things to say bout em.
The 6pack is supposed to be every bit as strong as the RFX and about 1/4-1/2 pound lighter. The weight was saved by machining around the bb and using a lighter seat tube gusset and apparently butting some tubes. While this may not affect strength, it can affect durability. Might dent easier, etc.
The big difference to me is the geo tweaking. Using the same fork, the 6pack is both higher in the bb and slacker in the head angle than the RFX. Basically the 6pack has the same geo built into it with a 6" fork as the RFX has using a 7" fork. So if you want to run the bike as a freerider and run a big fork (66, Boxxer, SuperT etc) and consider crashing a normal part of aggressive riding you're better off with a gently-used RFX. If you want a HD trail bike the 6pack will rule the school.
The big difference to me is the geo tweaking. Using the same fork, the 6pack is both higher in the bb and slacker in the head angle than the RFX. Basically the 6pack has the same geo built into it with a 6" fork as the RFX has using a 7" fork. So if you want to run the bike as a freerider and run a big fork (66, Boxxer, SuperT etc) and consider crashing a normal part of aggressive riding you're better off with a gently-used RFX. If you want a HD trail bike the 6pack will rule the school.
Hmmm. Interesting take on it, unfortunately what I was thinking is using a 6" Z.1 FR and using it for some pretty hardcore stuff -- not a trailbike-type thing by any means. More of a light DH bike for places where the DH race rig is just overkill, or for north-shore type stuff, big drops would definitely be a part of it. I killed my old rfx so I can trade in for a six-pack, or just look elsewhere. I think the Highline will be overkill for what I'm looking at, although maybe I need to be realistic about my strength requirements...
Bulldog, I don't get how a higher BB and slacker HA translate to a less freeride-y bike...if anything, I'd think they're more freeridish traits... Personally, I wouldn't hesitate to ride a 6-pack as you describe, but I'm only 175 or so all jocked up for a ride, with armor and camelback and all.
The picks that Ratfink posted in the DH forum show the bike on some of the nastiest DH /FR terrain we have here in SoCal...
MD
The picks that Ratfink posted in the DH forum show the bike on some of the nastiest DH /FR terrain we have here in SoCal...
MD
After seeing the size of ya', I'd get another bike if I were you. Something with a little more umph like a vp-free kind of thing.
edit: wait a minute.....you can get a replacement swingarm for your old rfx? free? oh yeah nevermind, the sixpack is perfect.
edit: wait a minute.....you can get a replacement swingarm for your old rfx? free? oh yeah nevermind, the sixpack is perfect.
Are we anti-santa cruz?mobius said:
That was just an example.
7 point?
Uzzi vpx?
Foes Fly?
Big hit?
ha! I killed my RFX's rear triangle going off the side of a 10' high ladder on the Shore (along with other expensive parts and getting knocked out) - decided I needed "more bike" for the size of drops I was attempting - not that the RFX COULDN'T handle it, just I don't think it was ever designed with stuff that big in mind - I ended up getting a VP Free 'cause I didn't want to wait unitl '06 or whenever the Highline finally appears (and based on the Interbike Highline proto I thought it would be too heavy for my kind of ride for an hour to the top and bomb down days) - I like the Free, I've ridden it now on many of the trails I rode the RFX on and can say it's a big improvement - the more I open it up (speed-wise) the better the Free feels - I like the thru-axle in the rear too - strong is king when going bigger...DßR said:
I think my RFX when built back up with a 6" single crown at 34lbs or so will be a prefect heavy trail/light freeride - all day in the saddle, 6' drops - you name it - but when I want to hurl myself off a 15' ladder drop - or case a road gap, the Free is going to be my weapon of choice...
I agree.kidwoo said:Are we anti-santa cruz?
That was just an example.
7 point?
Uzzi vpx?
Foes Fly?
Big hit?
If I was 200lb I wouldn't want a 6 pk as a little DH bike or dropbike. The 6 is a aggressive xc/trail bike for a guy that size.
Everyone knows I love and want the Uzzi VPX so I would suggest that.
I also like the Foes but I think it's overpriced.
kidwoo said:
actually -- it's worse, I got a new swingarm, and was getting everything ready to send off to powdercoat, and I found a crack going about halfway around the top tube at the HT. So it's kicked for good.
I may have to go for the VP Free, but I really don't want or need an 8" fork or 8+" of travel (which was why I'm not terribly pro-Highline either). URGH. This is so frustrating...
you DID kill your RFX didn't you?DßR said:
get the VP Free - put on a 7" dual crown or a tall 6" single crown - don't get caught up in the 8+ travel - correctly set up with a DHX you'll have a very tough bike that can climb incredibly well....
7point or maybe the frame I'm lusting over at the moment, a Titus SuperMoto. The Titus is very reasonably priced considering you can choose any of the linkages and shocks without a price increase. I'm thinking of the 7" link with the Swinger 6 way.
This one should workMike B. said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27948&item=7131586945&rd=1
If I was breaking Turners, I would't be buying a Titus. Then again, the 7-pt isn't proven, either, but I'd take a chance on it...
Vp-Free with a 7" 66 fork?
Yeti ASX?
Ventana Bruja/Chamuco?
Foes Fly?
Banshee Chapparal?
Vp-Free with a 7" 66 fork?
Yeti ASX?
Ventana Bruja/Chamuco?
Foes Fly?
Banshee Chapparal?
SPED SX-trail would be good
Yeah exactly, Or a Cannondale Gemini non DH. I had one last year and really loved it, if u want more info just ask!anarchyUK said:
Whore.biker3 said:
8.75 x 2.75
The same size they use to get 10" of travel out of the v10. One of these bikes is gooder designed than the other. Can you guess which one?
The same size they use to get 10" of travel out of the v10. One of these bikes is gooder designed than the other. Can you guess which one?
DßR said:
Well, heh, I'd get the 6-pack if I were you. I think it'll hold up just fine. The rear end is the same as an RFX, I'm pretty damned sure, and the front end should be plenty strong...it's more refined than an RFX, for sure, with the butted tubing and all, but it's still gotta be well-designed and strong. It's a Turner...plus, Turner is really good about taking care of breakages. I had a tall buddy on an XL 5-spot that had a frame problem, and he was taken care of instantly, with no questions, and the assurance, "If it breaks again, you'll get another just the same." Normally, I find that rhetoric a bit sketchy, like they expect it to break, but in Dave Turner's case, it's reassuring.DßR said:Those are all good ones, I think this one is probably my #1 right now. The ASX and Chap are a little lower on the list. It's just so frustrating, the 6-pack is sex on wheels, everything else is just so... vanilla.
Turner with a DHX or an avalanche...mmmm...
Think off all the heinous crap you did with your RFX before it finally died off...
kidwoo said:
Well duh, the v10 because it has 10" of hucktastic-engineered travel. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figger that one out
I think that pretty much settles it; I have a 8.75x2.75 Ti-sprung Avalanche DHS sitting in its box in my parts room, the price of a VP-free minus selling the DHX off it will probably be too good to pass up.
Hard to go wrong with a VP Free/Avy combo...DßR said:Well duh, the v10 because it has 10" of hucktastic-engineered travel. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figger that one out
I think that pretty much settles it; I have a 8.75x2.75 Ti-sprung Avalanche DHS sitting in its box in my parts room, the price of a VP-free minus selling the DHX off it will probably be too good to pass up.
Too much of a good thing isn't good.....that's what I was meaning. The bb is high and the head angle is slack on my RFX already. Going higher and slacker yet might not be so much fun. That's all I meant. I personally wouldn't run a 66 on a 6pack like I do on my RFX, I think it would ruin the bike and the ride. But a SuperT with more travel and yet shorter a-c might work, though it would be about the limit IMO.MikeD said:
I used to run a Super T on my RFX - it was a pretty great combo - although I like the Super on my VP Free even more - and I think the '05 Z1 will be the perfect fork for the RFX...looking forward to finding out - right after I build my Evil DOC....Bulldog said:
Hey, did you find a bike? I just got into a Gemini Dh, myself, and recalled this thread...might be a bike for you to consider. High BB, but not too high, 7" travel with the Swinger shock, dual-ring capable, slack (but not too slack with a 7" marzocchi dual crown), lightish...
Question is, how much faith do you have in Cannondale's thrashability?
MD
Question is, how much faith do you have in Cannondale's thrashability?
MD