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anyone work with Authorware?

pnj

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it's a Macromedia product, curious if anyone has any experience with it.
 

DVNT

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no but i'm curious about who uses it.

to me it looks like a really super expensive version of Studio MX.

I don't really see what the difference is, I've been using MX to make tutorial CD's - Catalogs and other fun stuff for a while.

Maybe I am missing out on something?????
 

pnj

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I don't know, I just heard about it two days ago. I downloaded the trial version and am working w/ the tutorials but it's pretty damm hard. things that are supposed to happen, don't. the help files pretty much suck, i'm finding. we have a client that uses it and I may have to work on a project with them, so I'd like to have some understanding of it before hand.

I'll have to check out Studio MX. does it allow you to do screen captures (capture the mouse movement) and import files like video and flash?
 

DVNT

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Flash MX and beyond is actually really easy to use with video. It even takes the video frames and syncs it with the key frames of the animation.
 

DVNT

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Funny thing is I really don't see the point in Authorware but that's why i think i'm missing something.

What kind of project is this for? A CD-ROM - kiosk - DVD? Just curious.
 

pixelninja

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Authorware has been around forever. It used to be Macromedia's software for creating CD based CBT's (computer based training), but with the advances made with both Director and Flash, I think its pretty much obsolete unless MM has other plans for it.

FYI - I've never used it either. Every CBT I've created has been with Flash.
 

pnj

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the project would be web based. we film/video tape someone and add other material like flash, images and links and serve it up via the web. the last project this same client had us create, most of their audience couldn't use because they don't have broadband. (we told them, over and over, you need broadband to view our videos..)

for this next project, they mentioned they use Authorware on other projects and maybe we could use it too... that is all I know really. my boss asked me about it, so I'm looking into it.

we have studio MX actually.I'm an idiot. I just imported a windows media file into it and it doesn't look too good. we have some really high quality videos (not content wise, that is horrible) and we have the ability to stream them. the boss doesn't want to compremise the quality of them. so I don't think I can get away w/ using flash for this stuff.
I have actually tried using video in flash before. I couldn't really get the control to work too well to controll the video. fast forward, pause and whatnot.
 

pixelninja

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Yeah, didn't you have some synch'ing issues with Flash MX before that I tried (unsuccessfully) to help with? Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else...

I would grill your client about how they've used Authorware in the past. From my limited knowledge, one thing it has going for it is its built-in scoring of tests. But, I've done that in Flash, and its not that big of a deal to impliment.

For delivery of rich media over the web, I'm still a proponent of Flash, but you may want to look at Director also. I believe it still handles video better than Flash and its scripting capabilites are huge. If this isn't online testing, I don't know if Authorware would be the tool of choice.
 

pnj

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pixelninja said:
Yeah, didn't you have some synch'ing issues with Flash MX before that I tried (unsuccessfully) to help with? Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else...

I would grill your client about how they've used Authorware in the past. From my limited knowledge, one thing it has going for it is its built-in scoring of tests. But, I've done that in Flash, and its not that big of a deal to impliment.

For delivery of rich media over the web, I'm still a proponent of Flash, but you may want to look at Director also. I believe it still handles video better than Flash and its scripting capabilites are huge. If this isn't online testing, I don't know if Authorware would be the tool of choice.
I think it was me you tried to help. however, I just dumped a video file into flash and got the component to work w/ it so maybe I had my head up my rear when you were trying to help. or I had some other issue that I don't remember right now.

there is online testing involved most of the time but we've been using a SQL database and asp.net to handle that stuff.
so I don't really know how Authorware will help us. I think the client just has deep pockets(goverment)and purchased this software because they could. either that or at the time they purchased it, it was one of the few or only piece of software that could do what they wanted.
 

DVNT

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we have some really high quality videos (not content wise, that is horrible) and we have the ability to stream them.
yeah, my friends have been trying to talk me into dev. a porn site too!

I told them they gotta get the girls and the footage first!
 

pixelninja

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pnj said:
either that or at the time they purchased it, it was one of the few or only piece of software that could do what they wanted.
I remember taking a class in Director back in '95 or '96 and during breaks the instructor was working on an Authorware project. It was some sort of training piece, and at the time, he seemed to think that Authorware was the way to go.
 

pnj

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DVNT said:
yeah, my friends have been trying to talk me into dev. a porn site too!

I told them they gotta get the girls and the footage first!

I work for a school, so all of our content is educational. we had one client that put up a few very hardcore porn videos on our servers. one of my bosses found them, made copies of course, and then asked the client what was up. they guy claimed it was on accident.....

the best part was, my boss made sure he showed as many people as possible, including the ladys. ahahaha.
 

pnj

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do either of you have any experience with capturing the mouse movements?

I have camtasia/snag it and it works pretty well but I can't resize the capture without the text look like crap. the smallest I can capture at is 800x600.

I would like to be able to import a video and an AVI screen capture into flash and have them sit next to each other. any suggestions?
 

DVNT

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"do either of you have any experience with capturing the mouse movements?"

I just animated it in flash. Pulled in a screen capture of what I wanted to show then animated a mouse over it in flash with simulated button clicking. Seemed to work pretty good, but maybe too much work involved.

The thing that I liked about importing video into Flash is that I didn't have to worry about codecs, it is built in and makes it nice not having to worry about what other people have.

Are you talking about running a video stream and then having a separate AVI capture window for the user to grab frames? I just finished a Proj. in VB to do this with Still Images. :nuts:
 

pixelninja

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pnj said:
I have camtasia/snag it and it works pretty well but I can't resize the capture without the text look like crap. the smallest I can capture at is 800x600.
What are you using to resize the screen capture?

edit: damn, I knew I should have used the quote feature!
 

DVNT

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Fireworks or Photoshop, depends on where it's all headed to. Photoshop is great but I think Fireworks is a little faster for web images
- i think that ? was for me...oooppss
 

pnj

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so I just dumped a 2 minute windows media file and a 40 second or so AVI file (captured from camtasia) into Flash. the audio sounds weird. messed up.

I guess w/ Flash MX 2004 professional or whatever you can adjust the audio and what not, making it behave better with video files? and then there is something about a FLV file that can stream? do you need a special server for that? I don't see anything other then 'buy now" on the macromedia site.....
 

DVNT

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There is another app called Flash Server, which since i don't fancy myself as much as a developer as a designer so excuse me if i'm wrong, I believe is supposed to replace Cold Fusion. I'm on a different PC so let me open Flash and see if I can help you finger it out.

What type of video are you importing? AVI?
 

DVNT

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yeah, went through that on wednesday and was gonna pic up an app at pizza slut.

alright, i'm trying to find some video to DL one sec.

Flash Comm is for streaming Video and online gaming. These 9 words are all I know about it.....
 

DVNT

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right. when u say the audio is bad....are you playing it within flash or did you export it to an swf or mov file? Within in flash the quality of everything is a little shakey, once it does it's version of compiling it's not so bad.

also it will handle the following audio files....wav, mp3, adpcm, raw and speech

let me see if i can post this swf on here...
 

DVNT

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pixelninja said:
Methinks you need to get some solid requirements from your client before you do anything...
that's no fun. how are you supposed to get totally frustrated and threaten to quit while throwing folders across the meeting room?
Gotta love those moving targets!

On the other hand not many people change their requirements when ordering a hamburger...mmmm something to think about there.
 

pixelninja

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DVNT said:
that's no fun. how are you supposed to get totally frustrated and threaten to quit while throwing folders across the meeting room?
Gotta love those moving targets!
That's what I love about working for an inhouse art dept. My clients are other departments (and salespeople..gag), so I can actually look them in the face and say, "um...no."

"But Dave, wouldn't it be cool if we could do this?"
"NO"
"How about..."
"NO"
"What about..."
"NO"
"But..."
"NO"
"Um..."
"NO"
"..."
"NO"

Damn, it feels good to be a NO man...
 

pnj

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I imported the .wmv into flash via the Import menu option. then I added some other stuff and published the whole thing into a .swf file.

as for getting requirements from the client, this thing I'm doing is just a demo to see if it could be an option in the future. using flash w/ other files etc...

somehow the big boss seems to think we should know what the clent wants and be able to create it for them without ever talking to them.... he also doesn't understand why software needs to be tested. :|

welp, i'm out for the weekend. thanks for all the help and insite, we can start this up again next week. :)