[N8 v2.0]

Bush Wins Iowa to Claim Last Three States
Yahoo | 11-5-04 | By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer

DES MOINES, Iowa - President Bush won Iowa on Friday, claiming the last three states of the 2004 presidential election.

Although Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) had already conceded the race for the White House on Wednesday, the counting of absentee ballots continued in Iowa, which had been too close to call.

By Friday, Bush had 745,980 votes and Kerry had 732,764 with the number of outstanding ballots too few to change the outcome.

Long after the polls closed on Tuesday, Bush won Ohio, which gave him the 270 electoral votes necessary for a second term, and New Mexico.

With Iowa decided, Bush had 286 electoral votes and Kerry 252.

In 2000, Democrat Al Gore (news - web sites) won Iowa and New Mexico, which went for Bush this year. The only Democratic switch was New Hampshire, which went for Bush in 2000.

Iowa will not certify the results until Nov. 29.

Kerry began campaigning in Iowa nearly three years ago. His surprising win in the Jan. 19 caucuses over a slate of eight other candidates gave him the momentum to claim the Democratic nomination.



"all your states is belong to us.."

 

[Damn True]

Great map with all the individual results
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/front.htm

....and IMO this best illustrates the fact that the left DOES NOT represent the views of the majority.

Clearly there are more carpenters, farmers, ranchers and hardware store owners than there are actors, singers, software engineers and fashion magazine editors.

 

[Jr_Bullit]

I still kinda like this one...posted in another thread a couple days ago

 

[jdcamb]

Great map with all the individual results
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/front.htm

....and IMO this best illustrates the fact that the left DOES NOT represent the views of the majority.

Clearly there are more carpenters, farmers, ranchers and hardware store owners than there are actors, singers, software engineers and fashion magazine editors.

Go find a literacy map and overlay it to your map.... Very interesting indeed (usually available by state). You may also try is to line up your map to the locales of major universities. Another interesting one is to line up your map to major media outlets. Then compare the economies of the states that voted for Kerry as compared to Bush. I think the best one is to compare responses from exit polls as to why folks voted for either candidate as compared to another......jdcamb

 

[Slugman]

Great map with all the individual results
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/front.htm

....and IMO this best illustrates the fact that the left DOES NOT represent the views of the majority.

Clearly there are more carpenters, farmers, ranchers and hardware store owners than there are actors, singers, software engineers and fashion magazine editors.

Then why was the election so close? It's not like it was a landslide.

You need to add in population density. The census data in 2000 had 902,195 living in teh state of Montana - compare that to LA or NY City....

 

[BurlyShirley]

Go find a literacy map and overlay it to your map.... Very interesting indeed (usually available by state)

So you mean that heavy blue area around the lower Mississippi river is an area of high literacy? No. Try again.

Can anyone, for 5 points, tell me why this area went to Kerry? I know the answer, Im just curious if anyone else does.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Or how about lower texas? Is that an area filled with universities and a high literacy rate?

 

[jdcamb]

So you mean that heavy blue area around the lower Mississippi river is an area of high literacy? No. Try again.

Can anyone, for 5 points, tell me why this area went to Kerry? I know the answer, Im just curious if anyone else does.

There is probably going to be some exceptions..... But not many glaring ones....

 

[I Are Baboon]

So you mean that heavy blue area around the lower Mississippi river is an area of high literacy? No. Try again.

Can anyone, for 5 points, tell me why this area went to Kerry? I know the answer, Im just curious if anyone else does.

You got me!

 

[Damn True]

Go find a literacy map and overlay it to your map.... Very interesting indeed (usually available by state). You may also try is to line up your map to the locales of major universities. Another interesting one is to line up your map to major media outlets. Then compare the economies of the states that voted for Kerry as compared to Bush. I think the best one is to compare responses from exit polls as to why folks voted for either candidate as compared to another......jdcamb

God I love it when lefties try to say that people that vote based on values and trust are somehow less intelligent than themselves. In my experience there is a lot more "smarts" in Kansas than there is in NYC. But go ahead and continue to think that you are superior. Elitism seems to be working great for the Dems.

"If your enemy thinks you are stupid or ill prepared do not correct them"
~Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

 

[Westy]

So you mean that heavy blue area around the lower Mississippi river is an area of high literacy? No. Try again.

Can anyone, for 5 points, tell me why this area went to Kerry? I know the answer, Im just curious if anyone else does.

Swamp gas?

 

[BurlyShirley]

You got me!

These areas were highly populated with African americans after slavery was abolished and have traditionaly gone democrat. One could as easily make the same assumption with many major cities, that the minority vote boosted Kerry alot.

See poor hispanics in lower texas.

 

[I Are Baboon]

These areas were highly populated with African americans after slavery was abolished and have traditionaly gone democrat. One could as easily make the same assumption with many major cities, that the minority vote boosted Kerry alot.

See poor hispanics in lower texas.

I thought it might have had something to do with floating gambling casinos on the Mississippi River, but then the blue area in lower Texas killed that theory.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Here a map that won't cause liberal pain...

 

[Transcend]

Great map with all the individual results
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/front.htm

....and IMO this best illustrates the fact that the left DOES NOT represent the views of the majority.

Clearly there are more carpenters, farmers, ranchers and hardware store owners than there are actors, singers, software engineers and fashion magazine editors.

actually i think if you weight that map according to population density, it would change dramatically. Don't you find it funny how the blue splotches all reside in extremely dense urban population areas?

I have my own personal opinions as to why this is, but i won;t go into it. That map is extremely misleading, as it looks like bush won 90% of the country, when in fact, he only won 51% of it.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Poor red basdids in up in Maine...

 

[Damn True]

Exactly my point. The yuppie-fication of the Democratic party has focused on affluent urban people and marginalized the rest.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Exactly my point. The yuppie-fication of the Democratic party has focused on affluent urban people and marginalized the rest.

The libs even have a new name for the rest of us now... "Wal-mart Shoppers."

 

[Transcend]

The libs even have a new name for the rest of us now... "Wal-mart Shoppers."

If the cowboy boot fits.....

 

[N8 v2.0]

If the cowboy boot fits.....

hugs:

Means nada to me.. lots of folks shop there.

I prefer Target or Sams Club though.


But the term will NOT win liberals any elections.

 

[jdcamb]

God I love it when lefties try to say that people that vote based on values and trust are somehow less intelligent than themselves. In my experience there is a lot more "smarts" in Kansas than there is in NYC. But go ahead and continue to think that you are superior. Elitism seems to be working great for the Dems.

"If your enemy thinks you are stupid or ill prepared do not correct them"
~Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

Your assumption that I am a Democrat and a Liberal is laughable. I have been to Kansas and I found there to be a lot of smart folks there. Inversly I have also lived in NYC and know there are a lot of stupid folks there. I just find the data surrounding the election kind of interesting. Excuse me for that. IMO the elitism of the Dems is what turned off the heartland to the Dems. The plans looked good in the flow charts but had no substance. No easy points so to speak. The GOP message was clear and concise. Very digestable. If the Dems learn from their mistakes the GOP is in trouble next election. With Hillary on deck the GOP has nothing to worry about.... Breath easy there fella....

jdcamb

 

[Jonny Wray]

Elitism? Maybe, but I reckon it's more simple than that. They (as in Kerry and the dem party) just couldn't get across what they stood for. The Economist had a great headline last week that summed it up for me: "America's next president: The incompetent or the incoherent?".

Maybe their arguements came across as elitist to some, certainly didn't to me, but they did come across as incoherent. I voted for Kerry because I thought he best represented (of the two) what I believe in. But I certainly didn't gather that information from any of the crap they peddled me. This election was Kerry's to win, and he just screwed it up by not presenting himself as a strong, viable potential president with a coherent set of policies and principles.

Oh, and the gay rights thing. A complete scapegoat in my view. May have had some influence on some people, but I don't think it was anywhere near a deceiding factor.

Your assumption that I am a Democrat and a Liberal is laughable. I have been to Kansas and I found there to be a lot of smart folks there. Inversly I have also lived in NYC and know there are a lot of stupid folks there. I just find the data surrounding the election kind of interesting. Excuse me for that. IMO the elitism of the Dems is what turned off the heartland to the Dems. The plans looked good in the flow charts but had no substance. No easy points so to speak. The GOP message was clear and concise. Very digestable. If the Dems learn from their mistakes the GOP is in trouble next election. With Hillary on deck the GOP has nothing to worry about.... Breath easy there fella....

jdcamb

 

[jdcamb]

The Economist

Who reads that piece of ****...... Isn't that a sister pub of MBA??

 

[Ridemonkey]

Clearly there are more.... hardware store owners....

Walmart has missed a few?

 

[Toshi]

Great map with all the individual results
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/front.htm

....and IMO this best illustrates the fact that the left DOES NOT represent the views of the majority.

http://images.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/elections2004/_images/2004countymap3.gif

Clearly there are more carpenters, farmers, ranchers and hardware store owners than there are actors, singers, software engineers and fashion magazine editors.

also from usa today's county map: "Counties won by less than 5 percentage points

Bush
162

Kerry
131"

your shameless flag waving fails to note that many of those counties appearing on the map as solid red were anything but solid.

 

[Serial Midget]

Walmart has missed a few?

Seventy-two small businesses have closed their doors since Wal-Mart opened up in my small town. This incudes probably a dozen small mom and pop corner style hardware stores. The occupancy rate of our fomerly vibrant downtown shopping core is about 5O%... Wal-Mart destroys small town economies and makes it impossible for for small businesses to compete.

 

[Jonny Wray]

Yep, I only read it for the pictures.

Who reads that piece of ****...... Isn't that a sister pub of MBA??