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Are Hopes Loud?

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Monkey
Feb 28, 2002
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Vail CO
Do Hope brakes really make that much noise? I'd like to try some M4s, but constant squeeling would drive me crazy. I've heard Hopes tend to be a bit noisy... how bad is it and can you do anything about it?
 

sh*t scared

Monkey
Sep 30, 2004
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yeah, they are noisy, noisy as hell!!

There is nothing you can do about it. Either you get some good ones, or you get some bad ones. changing pads, facing mounts, nothing gets rid of the noise, and you ring Hope. They say, rub some mud on the disk!!! nothing like technology! get something else mate.
 

thaflyinfatman

Turbo Monkey
Jul 20, 2002
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Victoria
No, but their groupies do ;)

Yeah it seems to be a bit of a lucky dip as far as noise goes. A mate of mine had some of the old M4s and they made heaps of noise, then he got the Monos and they went quiet, yet another guy I know with the Monos has loud ones, and two other dudes I know who run them have had the squealing come and go (repeatedly) over time. Not really sure what causes it either, but Hayes, Avid and Shimano don't seem to have the same issue...?
 

Rik

Turbo Monkey
Nov 6, 2001
1,085
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Sydney, Australia
I like it, picking brakes by the noise they make coming down the trail.
Hayes is a truck-like deep resonating sound, Hope is a high pitched mouse-in-the-rotor squeak, and alot of swearing and some crashing sounds is a cabledisc/v brake rider.
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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Sand, CA
i have 5 sets of Hopes. 2M4, 2Minis, 1M6s. sometimes they make noise sometimes not. my set of minis on the xc bike never make a noise. the rear brake on my bmw has no noise but the front sometimes doesn't shutup.
 

joelsman

Turbo Monkey
Feb 1, 2002
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B'ham
my mono 4's make noise when wet, otherwise they are silent, different pad compounds make different noise's. hope has different compounds available, call and ask which ones are best for your area: dry or wet.
 

Brian HCM#1

Don’t feed the troll
Sep 7, 2001
32,301
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Bay Area, California
It's not the brakes that squeel, its the pads. A few years back Hope changed pad manufactures and with the compound used they were very noisy. The newer Mono series brake originaly came with sinthered pads which can be noisy. The organic and EBC green and red pads will be quite. Also you need to make sure the pads contact the rotor evenly. I've never met a Hope caliper I couldn't quite down.
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,660
1,237
Nilbog
DHS said:
i have 5 sets of Hopes. 2M4, 2Minis, 1M6s. sometimes they make noise sometimes not. my set of minis on the xc bike never make a noise. the rear brake on my bmw has no noise but the front sometimes doesn't shutup.

very true, my m4's are very tempremental (spelling) :think:
 
May 3, 2004
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Sanna Croooz
Like Brian said dude, I think it has more to do with the compound as well as getting the brake mount surfaces faced properly. I don't think you can go wrong with those M4's, b/c it would cost just as much or more to buy a pair of Hayes all setup the way eric got them.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
go red or green, non sintered pads don't make as much noise. I bought new pads for the ones I just got and lightly scuffed the pads with 600 grit paper (barely scuffed), stuck them on and silent silent silent. The material and even rubbing cause the pads to squeal, it's the rotor sliding between them on an even surface and breaking free. Like slidng your sneaker on a basketball floor and getting the squeal. If you rough them up just a little bit they break in more conformed to the rotor and will run the same exact lines of it. I had to do it on my class 7 unlimited race truck for mexico runs where the silt beds will eat ya. I used to do it on my cbr and also my mx bikes.
It works well and helps them not to get an even surface to vibrate and make the loud squeal. Example: if you have a soccer cleat on one foot and a flat sneaker on the other foot, stomp down on a gym floor while kicking forward. The flat sneaker will meke a lot more noise than the cleat. your brakes will overcome the minor ridges from sanding and will give it a good stop and not at your ears cost.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
10,840
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Orange County, CA
My second ride on my Mono M4's was San Juan (downhill only) in the middle of a huge rainstorm. I assumed I'd be deaf by the bottom, but nary a peep. My friend with the Shimanos you could hear from a couple of miles away...
 

JRogers

talks too much
Mar 19, 2002
3,785
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Claremont, CA
I have an older set of 4 piston hopes but they often make a lot of noise. I don't really care (more incentive to brake less) but it does happen. Sometimes, people stare.