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I think people are arguing that A) cannondale has a lot of ideas, and not all of them are good, B) proprietary stuff is generally bad, and C) the adjustability isn't a bad thing, but somebody else came up with it first.
Because people know that C-dale bikes also offer a different kind of flexibility if you weight anything over 140lbs. Their AM bikes now are closer to a gloryfied XC rides than do it alls. At least it was like it 2 years ago and some of their ideas are still here. Prophet was the way to go.
Yes! A 10-20spd gearbox built into the BB and a belt drive. Can't wait!
I missed that. That's hilarious. Almost every company that makes composites uses a proprietary process, I guess if they use it on a spy satellite or F-22 is suddenly "Classified".My favourite speal about the cannondale is the "use of classified military carbon - every kilo must be accounted for"
You'd think they'd learned their lesson with the whole "freeride" fiasco... 
so, my understanding is that this is not like the Bionicon in that the fork is not connected to the switch that alters the shock's attitude. If that is the case, how is this different from the "itch-switch"-shock from Fox that came on my 2003 Specialized Enduro? Maybe the accompanying change in geometry?
I don't really want to bag on this bike since I haven't seen it, or ridden it. If they were able to take an existing concept and improve on it, well then, all the power to them. I just wish they would quit it with their crummy jargon... over-mountain? really?
Oh, and I still think the Enduro is a solid "all-mountain" performer. There's enough pictures of them floating around the ether-net that I won't post one up here, but I will say that when I rented one of the '10 models from Evolution to ride Comfortably Numb in Whistler, I was amazed at how well it climbed, and how much fun it was bombing back down on it. No shock-gimmickry (not anymore anyways) and a solid fork on the front and it's kick-@ss. I'm now saving my pennies for a carbon frame!
Well that seems to work for trek
so you think peter denk goes to cannondale and the first thing he gets to hear is: "build the bike you want, but it needs to flex on everybody over 140lbs!"?
I dont even know who Peter Denk is(enlighten me if you wish). What I do know is that their previous bikes (Rize , moto if I'm not wrong) were far from stiff. In my case it's not a problem my weights fluctuates between 145-155lbs but I have some heavier friends and the flex was noticably bigger than for example on lapierre bikes.
I'm just not to trusty of C-dale reinvent the wheel philosophy.
Braap at just £900 for frame and 2011 Monarch RT3 High Volume shock - yes please"
I have that frame on order.
I disagree, climbing is easy on my Ibis Mojo but if the descent is steep and rough it's not as fun as my Bullit and V10. Climbing on those bikes is considerably less fun than on the Ibis. The point of a bike like the Scott is to make climbing almost as fun as on the Ibis and descending as fun as on a DH bike. It takes the guesswork out of choosing a bike for a ride with long climbs and long, steep descents. It will also make a great Super D bike for DH oriented courses.
My Ibis fits that description perfectly and no, it can't do everything a bike with stiffer wheels, 2" more travel, slacker HA, and bigger tires can. I can ride the same trails on it but not the same way. The handling and capability of these bikes is more comparable to a DH bike than a trail bike. The bonus is that they climb almost as well as a trail bike.
That didn't happen. These bikes are very hard to get in the US and I've seen no advertising here for them. Scott has believed in their single pivot w/adjustable shock design for years now and that's the path they are progressing down. The shock on the Genius LT is a 3rd generation design and the frame is a progression of the shorter travel Genius.
When Scott tried to sell their original Genius bikes in the USA they immediately were sued by Specialized, because of HorstLink pivot. That's why it's been single-pivot for 2 years or so.
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25.4lbs 67.8/66.8 deg head angle
That's what I was trying to say, though I'm not that good at formulating my thoughts. I know C-Dale main target group are 40+ executives that rarely ride their bikes but that's overkill. Do we really need 10kg AM bikes? I'm more than satisfied by the weight of all bike types on the market. Lets concentrate on other stuff and loose weight only when opportunity arises.
That is what Cannondale is doing with their carbon frames. They aren't that much lighter than the alloy frames but they are a whole heck of a lot stiffer.
The video was made to show how the suspension moves through its travel. That's not how a rider would/should typically set it up.
Are you running the high or low BB position?The future is here and I'm happy. Under 30lbs with heavy tires. Feels like a light DH bike going down and a trailbike on the flats and climbs.
