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6thElement

6thElement

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Full Trucker said:
Is this... sarcasm?

Honestly I don't know... I've never read or watched Bike bike tests. Or Beta bike tests.
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Cereal.


I liked watching the old Bible of Bike reviews, looks like they're still going to try and put out similar content.
 
slimshady

slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
Dec 20, 2007
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...
Fool said:
Not even toast. Not even crumbs to be picked up by a suddenly cash-infused Outside conglomerate.

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PinkLizard said:
Pinkbike’s content and services have long been paid for with an advertising model, while our new parent company offers some features of their titles in a subscription called Outside+.
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In the coming months we’ll be digging into how Pinkbike can best support the Outside platform and make their offerings even more compelling. While our long term business model will evolve, a significant portion of our content will remain free. We’re thrilled about the ideas on the table already.
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Westy

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Sleazattle
Huh. Outdoor own the GAIA GPS app? From what I understand GAIA has been informing people that some of our MTB only, downhill only, proper DH trails are nice places for family hikes. I wonder if they will become liable after a toddler takes a DHF to the face at 20 MPH.
 
binary visions

binary visions

The voice of reason
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Westy said:
Huh. Outdoor own the GAIA GPS app? From what I understand GAIA has been informing people that some of our MTB only, downhill only, proper DH trails are nice places for family hikes. I wonder if they will become liable after a toddler takes a DHF to the face at 20 MPH.
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I use Gaia a lot, but it's really bad as a primary source of information. Probably dangerously so.

I usually use it when I've already researched my trails, maybe downloaded a GPS route, etc. and then it's a convenient way to track and navigate my hike.

Last time I blindly trusted Gaia, I thought I had found a nice way to turn an out-and-back into a loop trail. The "connecting trail" that Gaia documented turned out to be essentially falling down a 45 degree dirt slope for a quarter mile, clambering down into a sheer-walled river ravine, fording the river, and then hauling yourself up the even-steeper far side by whatever vegetation was strong enough to pull on. No trail at all.

I've seen a lot of other instances where trails were in the app that didn't exist, or were inappropriate for hiking. It's a good tool but not a good source of trusted data.
 
Westy

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Sleazattle
binary visions said:
I use Gaia a lot, but it's really bad as a primary source of information. Probably dangerously so.

I usually use it when I've already researched my trails, maybe downloaded a GPS route, etc. and then it's a convenient way to track and navigate my hike.

Last time I blindly trusted Gaia, I thought I had found a nice way to turn an out-and-back into a loop trail. The "connecting trail" that Gaia documented turned out to be essentially falling down a 45 degree dirt slope for a quarter mile, clambering down into a sheer-walled river ravine, fording the river, and then hauling yourself up the even-steeper far side by whatever vegetation was strong enough to pull on. No trail at all.

I've seen a lot of other instances where trails were in the app that didn't exist, or were inappropriate for hiking. It's a good tool but not a good source of trusted data.
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The trails are clearly marked one way bike only but I suspect after making plans and driving an hour, people choose to believe the information that got them there over what they see when they get there.

I like to use WTA and REI's hiking project. The information is well vetted and will occasionally point out a route that is a bad idea and at one's own risk.
 
6thElement

6thElement

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Westy said:
REI's hiking project
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mtbproject, hikingproject et al are no longer REI, they seem to have been acquired by "OnX" who keep advertising their pay app. I hope mtbproject doesn't go by the wayside without subscription.
 
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