People or bike parts?
Are We Witnessing the Death of Self-Powered Cycling?
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Yeah. That already exists. Get yer credit card out!
definitelyPeople or bike parts?
36 pounds with 70 miles of range (depending on trail difficulty) are my magic numbers before I plunk down cash.
We need MTV to bring Unplugged back from the death. Then we could put together a MTB series where old hags ride against each other on acoustic bikes.Yes, you are probably witnessing the demise of the acoustic/self powered bike. But they will never go away. People will learn there are pros and cons to each. And hopefully maybe have one of each. And a DH bike, and a trail bike, and, and, and....
Mine is the one hung with the Dobro guitar, on the left.
orbea, rotwild and specialized make bikes like that (dunno if there are more brands out there in the light ebike category)
We're not that far from that at all. But trail difficulty is only one factor in range, you also need to consider the weight of the rider, which mode you're using (if any) for some of those miles, etc. That's why mileage estimates should be taken with a grain of salt.
I'm around 195 lbs, and all else being equal you better believe I get way less range than my lady shredder, who is more like 115.
Seriously, just make motorcycles with all kinds of engines legal on all trails and be done with it.
You've obviously never seen what the OGR looks likeMaybe that is the outcome of riding an e-bike???....just sayin...
I think his biceps might be as big as your quads
"The wave of the future, Dude. One hundred percent electronic!"
"Yeah well, I still jerk off manually."
"Yeah well, I still jerk off manually."
No, I haven't and that could very well be. But maybe if he had quads the size of his biceps he would not need an e-bike?
Ha, nice. I don't actually own an e-mtb. I'm not really an early adopter and I'm waiting a bit longer. I don't need one but definitely want one, and will probably pull the trigger on one within the next year. Guess we'll just have to see what happens to my quads then.No, I haven't and that could very well be. But maybe if he had quads the size of his biceps he would not need an e-bike?
Kade Edwards has been playing around on an electric trials bike that looks like mad fun. Somehow half the price of an e-bike and roughly 7 billion times more rad.
They're getting close - https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/mountain-bike/a30756139/specialized-levo-sl-review/
A couple years from now I think they'll be there.
if tesla ever allows the 4680 cells on the free market these could be quite interesting for slimmer, lighter ebike designs
2 rows of these cells in a similar arrangement like this in the downtube:
2 rows of these cells in a similar arrangement like this in the downtube:
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Ugh Tesla.......
Not that anyone is wondering, but the 4680 cell was developed at Dalhousie in Halifax from the preeminent authorities in battery technology. But because money, marketing, and partnerships, somehow the world thinks that Tesla and the Antisemite are geniuses.....
That's how we do!
^ Like we (and Specialized and every other EMTB manufacturer) couldn't foresee that type of product being developed.
When limit modifiers are outlawed, only outlaws will have limit modifiers
FTFY
There is a network of heavily trafficked bike paths around here. The introduction of e-bikes was starting to make them super sketchy. Lots of people with neither the experience or ability to normally go over 20 mph buzzing around other cyclists, joggers, dog walkers. I have avoided it like the plague for the past two years, can't imagine what it is like now.
unsurprisingly, there's a shitload of chip tuning / derestriction options out there already.
https://www.ebiketuning.com/shop.html
based on the couple times i've ridden ebikes, running into the ~30km/h limit WAS kinda annoying...
https://www.ebiketuning.com/shop.html
based on the couple times i've ridden ebikes, running into the ~30km/h limit WAS kinda annoying...
I have one for my commuter, it will go about 34. But it uses too much juice, i rarely go over 28.
I go 30mph on my bike now. Just not on flat parts.
five puppies and two good clean white children were killed in the making of this post.
Plus communism got a foothold.
five puppies and two good clean white children were killed in the making of this post.
Plus communism got a foothold.
DeFeCtOr
imho only the chemistry inside, do you have more info that they also developed the cell and the tabs tesla has the patent on?
Why on earth do you want 70m of battery range?
Give me the lightest possible battery that just barely gets me to the top of my after work ride climb. Battery to cover 7 miles of range is much more realistic on someone's daily use. Modular battery system makes more sense to me.
I've been riding a e-kit on my commuter for a couple years now and you can pry it from my cold dead hands when I die. Our two e-cargo bikes has replaced most all use of our car year round here in Vancouver.
I'm with stupid. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
I want 70 miles of range on a 36 pound bike so I can go 70 miles on it, duh
Think huge backountry loops that SUCK on a regular bike. We have a bunch of those...
Think huge backountry loops that SUCK on a regular bike. We have a bunch of those...
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Everything I read before I bought mine was "buy the biggest battery you can" so I bought a pretty big battery...I never drain it in a days ride. Now I'd much rather have that same battery in 2 or 3 smaller units.
Guys have taken the Levo SL and pulled out the frame battery and ran it just on the smaller range extender, this and the Lappierre that Nico designed are smarter use from my perspective.
I like moar range, but really a mileage rating is kind of useless unless you specify elevation, rider weight, ride mode, etc. To use Shimano terminology, a super light rider in eco mode on flat/rolling terrain might get 70 miles while a heavier rider in trail or boost mode on steep terrain on the same bike will get way less.
The batteries will continue to get better but I'm hoping for more modular battery systems and range extenders to allow you to more easily tailor the amount of battery you carry around to the ride at hand, weight of the rider, etc. I've done a couple rides where one battery was not enough, but two was way more than needed and definitely more than I wanted to carry. (That shit is heavy. Yes, even when you've got a motor. For the moment they also take up an unacceptable amount of beer space.)
The batteries will continue to get better but I'm hoping for more modular battery systems and range extenders to allow you to more easily tailor the amount of battery you carry around to the ride at hand, weight of the rider, etc. I've done a couple rides where one battery was not enough, but two was way more than needed and definitely more than I wanted to carry. (That shit is heavy. Yes, even when you've got a motor. For the moment they also take up an unacceptable amount of beer space.)