you sure seem pretty confident it was russia.
regardless of who it was, yes it's an issue. and yes, it's also an issue that the DNC was improperly influencing the primary process.
talking about trump / world power balance is a red herring here.
Are we witnessing the death of the Democratic party?
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regardless of who it was, yes it's an issue. and yes, it's also an issue that the DNC was improperly influencing the primary process.
talking about trump / world power balance is a red herring here.
being able to prove what was suspected IS news. Especially when you consider the widespread reports of potential voter fraud at the dem primaries.
The party bias doesn't bother me nearly as much as the complete lack of the press even talking about it. This is a big deal, imo.
Ain't nobody gonna accuse me of mysogyny. Of course technically I'm taking the role of a man taking the role of a woman. NTTAWWT.I like that you took on the role of "woman". Very progressive of you.
and if it does die....where do you see latinos and african americans taking their vote?
various central and south american countries.
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There are no wide spread reports of voter fraud. There are only paranoid ramblings of voter fraud.
Here is the thing that cracks me up. The berners have spent the last 8 months screaming that the system was rigged against them. Now they are gasping in disbelief because there was bias in the system.
I think Bernie's own reaction is pretty appropriate in this matter. It is certainly not one of surprise. He got his scalp but I think most people can agree that she was a shit chairperson anyway. Notice he isn't pushing for cleaning house at the DNC. Even if they did, there would still be bias in the next election cycle. It is the nature of the beast.
no, they're screaming in anger because they were right and no one else (ie people like you) really seem to give a fuck.
Pfft.... You misspelled "globalized free trade".
Well, now that it's out in the open we should totally not do anything about it. Let it continue on unchecked for the sake of our grandchildren. Rigging elections, no biggie, it's always been that way. Yes, the system is rigged, but we must vote for somebody who helped rig it. Get the money out, get the corporate interests out, just as soon as I'm done with the money of said corporate interests, then it will be bad.
And is the RNC really the target we want to be shooting for here? That's what the party of progress is going to hold itself up against? The party of flat-earthers, religious fanatics, and science deniers? The party whose most electable candidate, of 17 possible choices, appears to be a juggalo? I think we can set the bar just a tad higher. I expect better, I demand better.
Couldn't agree more. Fortunately, the movement to switch from caucus to primary seems to be on its way to the ballot in November here.
Exactly. Remember how much of a loon Martin O'Malley sounded like back when he said the DNC was cooking the books? But to insinuate that anything else, just maybe, a little, might have been going on puts you in the tinfoil camp, or the whinny baby berners can't handle camp. Frankly, while i'm by no means convinced large scale voter fraud was occurring, at this point you can't blame people for being just a wee bit paranoid.
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Mexicans, obviously.
I do think any emails pertaining to fraud would have been published if they had been obtained.
Area man super upset about how a party to which he doesn't belong chooses a nominee. I'm not referring to you here but it applies to many of the berners.
from the caucuses to the electoral college, the whole process is a dog and pony show. with what's going on in both the GOP and the democratic party, i find myself wondering if we're reaching a tipping point of people just being fed up with it.
Don't mind me I'm just here for the sideshow entertainment.
Will you adopt/hire/marry me?
Serious question. It's getting weird over here.
If you're in a technical field, apparently they are dying for you to become a NZ'er. At least that's what their immigration website says.
I'm listening.........
BRB. Gotta see if 'technical' means managing twitter accounts for the chamber of commerce. Same language but you never know.....
BRB. Gotta see if 'technical' means managing twitter accounts for the chamber of commerce. Same language but you never know.....
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Definitely not like you lot.
You have first past the post, we have MMP (mixed member proportional same as Germany).
been at least 20 years since we had a single party governing parliament.
you can say you are fluent in australian....
Bingo
They are looking for pig farmers, not pig fuckers!
On the other hand, i am not sure what they mean by 'Husbandry'...
On the other hand, i am not sure what they mean by 'Husbandry'...
Tomayto tomahtoh
really?
Something that seems to be getting lost in the conversation is that Bernie has been thumbing his nose at the Democratic party for two decades. He left the party 20 or so years ago and admittedly only rejoined for the publicity in the primaries. Can't exactly expect the party to welcome him with open arms. Not saying what was done was right, but you have to expect politics in your politics.
At this point I'm starting to believe that nothing works in the long term. Both parties are thoroughly corrupt. The Democrats blew this one essentially by wishful thinking. All involved, of either party, fail to seek or express truth.
not lost on anyone.....it was their own fault.
why not say fuck you...run as a independent you old twat.
they were fine with it up until he started winning and guys started giving him their stripper money...
and with him came hordes of independent voters which is typically what decides elections, not the rank and file voters.
Not so much in the primaries.
i was referring to the general.
but the fact remains that sanders was drawing so many independents to the dem's just for the primaries is worth noting as well.
