If you can't get in the normal way, find the easy way... Why does this mentality not surprise me from you?If you are talking out of high school that is very different. You can get into Berkeley out of Jr, college with much lower grades, and SATs don't matter. I know kids getting in with quite a bit lower grades (something like 3.4s 3.5s) and yes I am going to a school with one of the top 3 UC transfer rates