the place i would carry something would be like NYC in a bad area..though some parts aren't bad what-so-ever
armed while riding?
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Wumpus said:
Not in baltimore. Welcome to murder central hunny.
these are the same numbnutted folks who give out anonymous neg. rep for those of us who refuse to be a victim of the sub-human scum that lurk and rob people, or get you outnumbered in the middle of nowhere, then start f...in with you.llkoolkeg said:
These are armchair riders. They either ride the same tried and true trail every weekend, or live in a fantasy land where there is no danger in the world, and no one has ever been given the Deliverance vacation special.
Just remember, when fit hits the shan, all of you have to do is outrun these members of victim culture to get away scott free.
Just remember, when fit hits the shan, all of you have to do is outrun these members of victim culture to get away scott free.
Not to be a dick here. But you seem a little upset and angry. Is it really that bad there in Windrock TN? If it is then you might consider getting out of there when you can. I grew up in a dangerous place and have lived in a couple of dangerous places. I have come to learn that moving is a good thing. And easier then you think it is.dhbuilder said:
Who cares about negative rep anonymous or not? And don't ever let anyone suggest to you you're wrong for being prepared. Thats just foolish. If you feel you need to carry a weapon then please do so.
Homes are just things. Family however is where I draw the line. Mess with mine and you will learn in cruel way why that is not a good ideaTattooo said:
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jdcamb said:
wow.
you some kind of analyst or something, that you can figure out by reading typed words if someone is upset or angry ?
don't take yourself or anything you see here so seriously.
upset and angry ?
that's funny.
try figuring out someone else.
you can't do any worse than the attempt you made here.
Good advice.dhbuilder said:
Dude, the only reason anybody goes to Hazard is to visit relatives.....you do KNOW that, right?BurlyShirley said:
OK, I confess, I'm old as dirt and I have no idea what you're talking about.....but it does conceal nicely.....MikeD said:
No, it is the exact same thing.Bicyclist said:
Tell ya what, why don't you go somewhere, have a gun jammed in your face and then come back and tell me about how you feel towards guns.
Or try this on for size. You don't like guns, great, don't buy them. However, an attempt to curtail my rights is a bad plan. You do your thing, I'll do mine.
Who ever said I wanted to curtail your rights? I would HATE for the right to bear ams to be destroyed.Tattooo said:
All I said is I don't understand why you'd ride with them. I don't buy guns, I just wanted a bit of an insight as to why you ride with them.
Thanks to your defensiveness and over-generalizations, I understand why you carry a piece.
The reason I got into riding armed is the same reason I got into living armed, I have lived in places like NOLA and have ridden in places like real deep backwoods MS.
In New Orleans, the god's honest truth is that without my handy 40 or 45 I would be a dead man today. I am a big guy, and know how to fight. However, that means nothing when confronted with a knife or a gun. In the four years I lived in the swamp I was almost mugged four times. Every time that it was an "almost" vs an actual mugging, it was because I was armed. Now you might say "well just give them your money, wallet, keys, etc" but what you don't understand is that in places like that, even complete capitulation to the attacker's demands is no promise you won't be killed. More often then not they will shoot you even if you give it all over to avoid a witness. Personally if I am getting shot I am taking the SOB with me straight to hell.
When riding in the deep backwoods of MS one time I got real lost. Lost to the tune of turning a 18 mile ride into a 70 mile ride in country where if you get lost you may very well not come home. I remember from my days of Hunters Safety (yes, shock and gasps, we 'necks do teach our kids how to kill things at an early age) that the universal sign of distress was three quick shots up in the air. Once I went down on a double flat and blew my ACL, my Glock in my pack is what got the attention of two hunters a mile or so off. They came, got me out, and took me back to my friends who were three counties away.
I am a firm believer that a gun is a good thing, and can save lives. Some folks don't like guns, or don't take well to the idea of killing. At the end of the day, be it a crack head with a knife or a boar coming down on me, with the intent of shaking me loose the mortal coil, it will always be the boar or the crackhead that will be on the ground.
For some reason I think Ted Nugent may be my dad...
In New Orleans, the god's honest truth is that without my handy 40 or 45 I would be a dead man today. I am a big guy, and know how to fight. However, that means nothing when confronted with a knife or a gun. In the four years I lived in the swamp I was almost mugged four times. Every time that it was an "almost" vs an actual mugging, it was because I was armed. Now you might say "well just give them your money, wallet, keys, etc" but what you don't understand is that in places like that, even complete capitulation to the attacker's demands is no promise you won't be killed. More often then not they will shoot you even if you give it all over to avoid a witness. Personally if I am getting shot I am taking the SOB with me straight to hell.
When riding in the deep backwoods of MS one time I got real lost. Lost to the tune of turning a 18 mile ride into a 70 mile ride in country where if you get lost you may very well not come home. I remember from my days of Hunters Safety (yes, shock and gasps, we 'necks do teach our kids how to kill things at an early age) that the universal sign of distress was three quick shots up in the air. Once I went down on a double flat and blew my ACL, my Glock in my pack is what got the attention of two hunters a mile or so off. They came, got me out, and took me back to my friends who were three counties away.
I am a firm believer that a gun is a good thing, and can save lives. Some folks don't like guns, or don't take well to the idea of killing. At the end of the day, be it a crack head with a knife or a boar coming down on me, with the intent of shaking me loose the mortal coil, it will always be the boar or the crackhead that will be on the ground.
For some reason I think Ted Nugent may be my dad...
Whoah there, when did this become about protecting your family or what you do with your dick? Choosing to go riding without carrying a weapon has no bearing on whether you have any weapons at home (and let's face it we all have kitchen knives longer than any of the knives shown in this thread).llkoolkeg said:
Someone breaks into my house? The wife will be calling 999 (our 911) whilst I'm working on breaking the intruder's skull. I'm also not about to start getting tooled up when I go out for a ride. Does that make me a dick-tucking cakeboy?
Thinking that it is unnecessary to take a weapon riding is indicative of where people choose to ride more than their stance on guns or knives.
i carry my Taurus PT140 (.40 cal subcompact) with me if i'm riding urban in the city where i work. otherwise i choose not to take it, mainly because it's just plain cumbersome. i plan on getting something smaller soon and i'll probably take that along w/ me in my camelback for the "you never know's".
oh yeah...to the point of this thread, i ALWAYS carry a knife on duty (benchmade auto-opener) and USUALLY when i'm off duty. knives are just plain 'ole handy-dandy tools.
oh yeah...to the point of this thread, i ALWAYS carry a knife on duty (benchmade auto-opener) and USUALLY when i'm off duty. knives are just plain 'ole handy-dandy tools.
Well, here in USA where knives are legal i carry 3.5" COLT folding knife everywhere.. I know how to use it & have martial arts training...
Otherwise i tote a 9mm also..in BIG cities/vacation/ Newport,TN /& sometimes just local trips when tourism folks have gotton real pissy.No, i swear it's unbelieable sometimes...It's unbelievable the road rage sometimes.If some redneck or big bity idiot pulls a weapon i would defend my family.. Who wants the legal issues, but it could happen ??
Otherwise i tote a 9mm also..in BIG cities/vacation/ Newport,TN /& sometimes just local trips when tourism folks have gotton real pissy.No, i swear it's unbelieable sometimes...It's unbelievable the road rage sometimes.If some redneck or big bity idiot pulls a weapon i would defend my family.. Who wants the legal issues, but it could happen ??
Oooooh....It's Chuck Norris!ATOMICFIREBALL said:
Know how to use it eh? Well I bet you don't!
oking you in the chest:I'd like to see you try something fancy, there Jean Claude. I'd teach you a thing or two. And your momma is fat!
:turns away smugly:
Carrying a knife while riding is cool for th Tool factor. Carrying a gun, like i said is more for protection against wildlife. For those that are thinking " Just ride faster".... Ever been chased by a pissed off Mama bear???. Ever had a Mtn lion Drop out of a tree at you??? Sppok a moose into a full on intercept???.... Repeating here that its Mtn liopns bears and Coyotes i am worried about were i live, and resonding to the lack of accessibility<SP>Few easy Mods take tare of that, like mounting the Holster underneath your pack. fits well right in your lower back, easy access. Like i also said before S&W model 13 .357 Very loud lots of knock down. Coyote or Mtn lion a shot into a tree and there gone, bear possibly same, if no time to think very dependable that it will do its job as intended.
Now for everyone saying Guns kill people and such...... i take a loaded gun, set it on the table, is it dangerous????? No, not untill it is in the wrong hands. Guns dont kill people Ignorance does.
There was a Boyscout camp a town away from were i live where they were teaching the scouts to shoot, a woman reporter was asking the man in charge," Arent you just arming these kids to grow up and be criminals, or to commit acts of violence?" His responce was wonderfull, " Ma'am, your perfectly equipped to be a Prostitute, but i dont see you working the streets at night do i?""
Now for everyone saying Guns kill people and such...... i take a loaded gun, set it on the table, is it dangerous????? No, not untill it is in the wrong hands. Guns dont kill people Ignorance does.
There was a Boyscout camp a town away from were i live where they were teaching the scouts to shoot, a woman reporter was asking the man in charge," Arent you just arming these kids to grow up and be criminals, or to commit acts of violence?" His responce was wonderfull, " Ma'am, your perfectly equipped to be a Prostitute, but i dont see you working the streets at night do i?""
No, there wasn't...DirtyMike said:
http://www.snopes.com/military/reinwald.htm
That one's been on the Internet for as long as I have.
In that case a lot of people here should be dead.DirtyMike said:
see aboveTattooo said:
regardless of who said it and where...someone thought it up and it's a pretty good point.MMike said:
Heh, I'm not arguing that, and it's funny to boot...but I've heard/seen several people claim they heard the broadcast or that it happened to/near them, which is even funnier.manimal said:
I bet you got the email yourself from some old jarhead buddies, no? Made it through the USMC like wildfire...
MD
yeah, i got the "USMC Colonel tells this war protester lady in line at the supermarket....." version. 
1. Some people were making unsupported inferences about others who choose to arm themselves while riding.fluff said:
2. I simply offered my own general observations of those with pacifist tendencies.
3. If the frosting fits, slather it on thick...but again, my comments were directed toward those who were demeaning people who trust preparedness over chance.
If you feel prepared or safe hiking without a signal mirror in your rucksack, for example, far be it for me to insult you for not carrying one. I look at weapons as nothing more than implements of preparedness. Having grown up owning and practicing with various weapons, I do not view them as toys for display or crutches for failing manhood. They are tools that are serious as a heart attack and should always be treated as such.
So.llkoolkeg said:
1. You did the same.
2. Just like all gun owners are homicidal maniacs?
3. Whatever.
Maybe I'm just naive living in lil' old Canada, but are there a lot of mountain biker muggings on the US trails? The only protection we really need is bug repellent...or maybe I'm leaving my guard down.
Most of time I hear of bad things happening on a bike trail, it is one in an urban area. When I lived by the W&OD Trail in Arlington, there were several assaults, robbings and rapes along its length each year, and that occurring with bike patrol officers cruising the trail network. Where I ride now, the only things you hear about are the occasional body being found or clandestine anthrax lab being sought.Ridemonkey said:
...and no, I'm not joking.
A woman was murdered several years ago jogging along a trail at the place I ride most often. The place is in the middle of suburbia...certainly not miles out in the woods. Still, I don't carry a gun when I ride because a) I don't own a gun, and b) I'd probably crash, causing the gun to discharge and blow one of my nuts off.Ridemonkey said: