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at least we aren't france?

TheMontashu

Pourly Tatteued Jeu
Mar 15, 2004
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Am I the only one who realizes that around the world immigration laws are largely enforced? Try to move to mexico and get citizenship, ain't gonna happen to easily. Try to move to france and see what happens. They for the most part, wont let you. It's not france's job or duty to house, feed, and employ the flood of immigrants coming out of africa. They are responsible for feeding, housing, and employing the french people already there. So long as the french are down to pick potatoes and apples, I don't see anything wrong with doing what they are doing
 

Damo

Short One Marshmallow
Sep 7, 2006
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French Alps
"We reject ... cloistered lives lived along ethnic and religious grounds, those that live by their own laws," Gueant told reporters. "The foreigners that we welcome here must integrate themselves. It is up to them to adapt to us, not the other way around."
This should be the base rule in any immigration situation.

Illegal immigration here is rife with the ease of crossing borders. Boatloads of illegals land in Italy where they are given day visas so they can pass through Italy to neighbouring countries. Italy has been pulled up on this numerous times. But you can bet your boots it isn't just Italy allowing this. These illegals are not the vegetable-picking workforce that you may get in the States, but rather bring crime and little else into the country.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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Japan
This should be the base rule in any immigration situation.
What if, no matter how long you have been in a country, no matter how well you speak the language, no matter how well you think you've "integrated", to the people born there you can never be a local, you will always be a foreigner? The world is not as cut and dried as you'd like it to be.
 

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
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So Cal
What if, no matter how long you have been in a country, no matter how well you speak the language, no matter how well you think you've "integrated", to the people born there you can never be a local, you will always be a foreigner? The world is not as cut and dried as you'd like it to be.
There's a difference between the immigrant that tries to assimilate and is still viewed as a foreigner and the immigrant who refuses to integrate and brings the worst of their own country to yours.

In my opinion, despite how welcoming or not the new country and it's people are, the immigrant should always try to integrate into their new home. Which is not to say that they should abandon all cultural beliefs, but dang it, at least learn the damn language.

(Dang it. I posted in the pawn again. Now I feel all dirty. Unclean! Unclean!)
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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In my opinion, despite how welcoming or not the new country and it's people are, the immigrant should always try to integrate into their new home. Which is not to say that they should abandon all cultural beliefs, but dang it, at least learn the damn language.

(Dang it. I posted in the pawn again. Now I feel all dirty. Unclean! Unclean!)
I see. So do you know a Native American language or culture well - genocide doesn't count. We the immigrants stole portions of the West from Mexico.
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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BUT, BUT, Jeebus wanted us to have it. Can't argue with teh jeebus.
That and US taxpayer subsides on corn which destroyed Mexican farmers and created a surplus of slave labor for our farmers. Boohoo, net economic surplus, why would we want that.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2005
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I know this won't be a popular opinion in here, but... doesn't it make a lot of sense for everyone to focus on one language and one system of measurement?