[Spunger]

OK, so been at this new job now for going on a couple of months. When I signed up (or applied for I guess) I am a Monday-Friday guy, 40hrs a week with the option of working Saturday's if needed.

Now this is what is screwy to me. When I am asked to work a Saturday (not very often) they always want to compensate me with just comming in a day during the week late or leave earley. So basicly getting around paying any overtime. I can't "bank" the hours "like add 4 hours to my vacation time or anything". The last time I worked a Saturday I ended up going into work 4 hours late on Friday before the Saturday. The other catch is that you have to take the time off before the next timecard is due.

Does this sound right? I've never worked at a place that is like this before but it sorta bugs me. Everything is in sick/vacation time (so no PTO time) but with this working Saturday's it's sorta funky. I don't mind it but I wish there was a way to choose the hours rather than just be told when and when not to take the hours off. At this point it's the only killer of this new job. Other than the pay sucks.....lol.

Any ideas?

 

[InsideMan]

hmmm pay sucks and they dont want to pay you over time. Sounds like its time to find a new job. Their cant be any future with this company, they sound very cheap and shaddy. Not a place i would want to be.

 

[binary visions]

Salary or hourly pay?

 

[johnbryanpeters]

I dunno if it's legal or not, but it's called comp (compensation) time.

 

[dgrif]

Salary or hourly pay?

gotta be hourly, if it were salary they'd just work the **** out of him.. ever heard of a comp day on salary? i dont think its in their vocabulary

 

[binary visions]

gotta be hourly, if it were salary they'd just work the **** out of him.. ever heard of a comp day on salary? i dont think its in their vocabulary

Many places do comp days on salary, actually, though you're right they usually just work you. However, a lot of places will do comp time if you have a special circumstance where you work overtime... like a certain project where you come in an extra day, projects that don't pertain to your job, stuff like that.

Of course, it all depends on the company

The reason I asked is because I thought it was just plain illegal for them to not pay an hourly worker overtime.

 

[dgrif]

do you get paid ever other week?

 

[dgrif]

Many places do comp days on salary, actually, though you're right they usually just work you. However, a lot of places will do comp time if you have a special circumstance where you work overtime... like a certain project where you come in an extra day, projects that don't pertain to your job, stuff like that.

Of course, it all depends on the company

The reason I asked is because I thought it was just plain illegal for them to not pay an hourly worker overtime.

ahh gotcha.. yeah, i never got comp time the last salary job i had.. set 10hrs a day 5 days a week, usually ended up workin 12hrs a day. hated that damn job.

 

[zedro]

The reason I asked is because I thought it was just plain illegal for them to not pay an hourly worker overtime.

pretty much, no carry-overs although i guess they could tell you not to come in for that time (and a half) the next week, so you'd never get a cent more.

Doesnt anyone sign employee contracts?

 

[jacksonpt]

I'm salaried, but my office does the samy type of thing. If I have to work an occasional saturday or whatever, I get to come in late a couple of days or take off early or whatever. We call it "flex time".

 

[binary visions]

pretty much, no carry-overs although i guess they could tell you not to come in for that time (and a half) the next week, so you'd never get a cent more.

Ahh, I just re-read it and I think I misunderstood.

So.. Spunger, you're never working more than 40 hours, right? So, no O.T.

In that case, it's perfectly legal for them to do. If they want you to swap Saturday hours for Tuesday hours or whatever, they're allowed to ask you to do that.

Of course, you're also allowed to tell them to go take a flying leap and walk out, which is the beauty of at-will employment

 

[KavuRider]

I worked for a large bank here in AZ, that's exactly what they did. Also, they would typically schedule Saturday's during a week where we had a paid holiday (memorial day for example). That way, we weren't technically working over 40 hours, so they could just pay us "hours over standard" instead of overtime. It always felt shady to me. Also, note that I mention that job in past tense...

 

[Upgr8r]

Unfortunately it is legal and quite common, especially in the financial industry. Most service related jobs are like this. It is only considered overtime if you work more than 8 hours in a day or 40 hours in a week.

 

[Spunger]

Ahh, I just re-read it and I think I misunderstood.

So.. Spunger, you're never working more than 40 hours, right? So, no O.T.

In that case, it's perfectly legal for them to do. If they want you to swap Saturday hours for Tuesday hours or whatever, they're allowed to ask you to do that.

Of course, you're also allowed to tell them to go take a flying leap and walk out, which is the beauty of at-will employment

I'm never working more than 40 hours a week. I am a mon-fri as my regular working hours. I am one of 2 full time employee's.

I was just trying to figure out if it's legal or "right" of them to just give you time off in lue of paying you overtime for work. The place won't pay anyone overtime, they are against it majorly but would give you time off each day of the week if that ment keeping you at 40 hours (with your overtime work covered).

I guess really it's just one way or another you will get 40 hours, just not in 5 8hr work days.

 

[binary visions]

I was just trying to figure out if it's legal or "right" of them to just give you time off in lue of paying you overtime for work. The place won't pay anyone overtime, they are against it majorly but would give you time off each day of the week if that ment keeping you at 40 hours (with your overtime work covered).

For hourly employess, AFAIK they have to pay you time and a half for overtime.

But, as you said, you're not working more than 40 hours so you aren't entitled to any overtime pay. Just because it's a Saturday and outside of the normal daily M-F schedule, doesn't by itself make it "overtime."

 

[douglas]

OK, so been at this new job now for going on a couple of months. When I signed up (or applied for I guess) I am a Monday-Friday guy, 40hrs a week with the option of working Saturday's if needed.

Now this is what is screwy to me. When I am asked to work a Saturday (not very often) they always want to compensate me with just comming in a day during the week late or leave earley. So basicly getting around paying any overtime. I can't "bank" the hours "like add 4 hours to my vacation time or anything". The last time I worked a Saturday I ended up going into work 4 hours late on Friday before the Saturday. The other catch is that you have to take the time off before the next timecard is due.

Does this sound right? I've never worked at a place that is like this before but it sorta bugs me. Everything is in sick/vacation time (so no PTO time) but with this working Saturday's it's sorta funky. I don't mind it but I wish there was a way to choose the hours rather than just be told when and when not to take the hours off. At this point it's the only killer of this new job. Other than the pay sucks.....lol.

Any ideas?

its no biggie, and legal - "fluid" schedule/hours cause they dont want to pay OT (so you get comped instead)

but, if you dont like it you know where the door is