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math2014

wannabe curb dropper
Sep 2, 2003
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ok guys,

I am totally ignorant about Avalanche shocks. Having read their website, it seems like they are the best shock in existence... or at least this is what i understood from the website... mx servicable... mx reliability etc etc....

Is that true?

I wish i could fit one on my SX.

Yannis
 

UiUiUiUi

Turbo Monkey
Feb 2, 2003
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Berlin, Germany
math2014 said:
ok guys,

I am totally ignorant about Avalanche shocks. Having read their website, it seems like they are the best shock in existence... or at least this is what i understood from the website... mx servicable... mx reliability etc etc....

Is that true?

I wish i could fit one on my SX.

Yannis
don't know about best shock in existance, i didn't ride any shock which is available out there.

but the two avalanche shocks and the one fork i had are pretty damn good!
 

Brian HCM#1

Don’t feed the troll
Sep 7, 2001
32,280
397
Bay Area, California
math2014 said:
ok guys,

I am totally ignorant about Avalanche shocks. Having read their website, it seems like they are the best shock in existence... or at least this is what i understood from the website... mx servicable... mx reliability etc etc....

Is that true?

I wish i could fit one on my SX.

Yannis
Avalanche is definatly the most durable shock on the market today. Plus they work and feel awesome:thumb:
 

DLo

Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
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South Bay Area, CA
Here's my Avy: http://www.msdhw.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1674&stc=1

I love my Avy. Only complaints are, I think I have finally started to notice the weight, but not while riding so it doesn't matter in the long run. Just attempting to pick up the stupid bike and putting it on the roof has become a chore for me. Other complaint is price, but, hey - you get what you pay for. If this shock doesn't blow, which Craig and Brian are both uberly confident with, then I must say, that the rear is definitely one of my most favorite purchases so far. I'm glad I got talked into it.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Sep 7, 2001
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DLo said:
Here's my Avy: http://www.msdhw.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1674&stc=1

I love my Avy. Only complaints are, I think I have finally started to notice the weight, but not while riding so it doesn't matter in the long run. Just attempting to pick up the stupid bike and putting it on the roof has become a chore for me. Other complaint is price, but, hey - you get what you pay for. If this shock doesn't blow, which Craig and Brian are both uberly confident with, then I must say, that the rear is definitely one of my most favorite purchases so far. I'm glad I got talked into it.
Ti spring!!!!! Huge difference.
 

DLo

Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
688
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South Bay Area, CA
Brian HCM#1 said:
Ti spring!!!!! Huge difference.
Right but, remember how squishy it is with my disco? We barely got the avy in as it is already, a ti spring you said was a little bigger in diameter. And the bottom of the avalanche coil (top of it, since we flipped it) is already verrrrrrrrrrry close to the frame, if not even touching.
 

nickaziz

Monkey
Aug 4, 2004
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Jesus said:
I got one on my M1.

But you got to buy the whole bike to get it! :D
I'd trade my spring plus some pretty serious cash if u were interested, or if the buyer of the M1 wants to save some money. Just let me know.

BTW, does anyone know if Craig offers a fork with DUAL ti springs? That would make sense for the semi-weight-conscious freerider.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Sep 7, 2001
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seismic said:
Is there enough space to squize a Ti spring in under the Army seat tower ? It even looks tight with the steel spring.
It barely clears, mine was rubbing a bit on one side, so I took the dremel and ground a little off each side of the brace, works perfect.
 

seismic

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2003
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South East Asia
Brian HCM#1 said:
It barely clears, mine was rubbing a bit on one side, so I took the dremel and ground a little off each side of the brace, works perfect.
Can you feel a different in the way the shock is reacting when disregarding the weight of the spring ? Does it move in another way when it is ti ?
 

Brian HCM#1

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Sep 7, 2001
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seismic said:
Can you feel a different in the way the shock is reacting when disregarding the weight of the spring ? Does it move in another way when it is ti ?
It does have a slightly different feel than steel, its kinda hard to explain.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Sep 7, 2001
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seismic said:
OK, - I will just have to try :devil:
The main reason I went with the Ti was I needed a heavier spring for the Disco, I had a little too much sag with the 550, so since the 550 was the largest steel spring availible I went with the Ti 600lbs spring. Its a quick way to shed off 1/2 a pound too:thumb:
 

seismic

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2003
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Brian HCM#1 said:
The main reason I went with the Ti was I needed a heavier spring for the Disco, I had a little too much sag with the 550, so since the 550 was the largest steel spring availible I went with the Ti 600lbs spring. Its a quick way to shed off 1/2 a pound too:thumb:
I had the same considerations concerning my Army. I was a little unsure whether the 550 spring would make the shock bottom, - especially in the larger travel settings. It does not...but I am still considering the ti so I would have a little more leverage to the bottom....and ti is always nice :love: :)
 
Oct 14, 2001
67
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Colchester, Ct
nickaziz said:
I'd trade my spring plus some pretty serious cash if u were interested, or if the buyer of the M1 wants to save some money. Just let me know.

BTW, does anyone know if Craig offers a fork with DUAL ti springs? That would make sense for the semi-weight-conscious freerider.
The steel springs only weigh approx 1 lb, and the Ti springs would only save approx 1/4 of a lb due to length and diameter requirements. This savings does not seem like it is worth the $300 plus cost of the Ti.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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AR_ said:
Let me have a shot at it.... Better. :love:
naw, i think brian is sensing the smooth, well lubricated feel of money :D
 

nickaziz

Monkey
Aug 4, 2004
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Craig Seekins said:
The steel springs only weigh approx 1 lb, and the Ti springs would only save approx 1/4 of a lb due to length and diameter requirements. This savings does not seem like it is worth the $300 plus cost of the Ti.
Ok, cool. Thanks for the info.

When can we expect to see pics of the production DHF-MT? I think that may be my next fork.
 

seismic

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2003
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nickaziz said:
Ok, cool. Thanks for the info.

When can we expect to see pics of the production DHF-MT? I think that may be my next fork.
Yes, - some pics would be great...to see the differences between the old and new version :cool:
 
Oct 14, 2001
67
8
Colchester, Ct
nickaziz said:
Ok, cool. Thanks for the info.

When can we expect to see pics of the production DHF-MT? I think that may be my next fork.

The first production units are being anodized this week and we will assemble them Friday for Interbike, I will have pictures posted on the web by Friday.

They really look exactly the same as the DHF-8 except the upper stanchion tubes are 45 mm, 2 mm larger and the lower crown is triple pinch and 1/2 taller.

 

seismic

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2003
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Craig Seekins said:
The first production units are being anodized this week and we will assemble them Friday for Interbike, I will have pictures posted on the web by Friday.

They really look exactly the same as the DHF-8 except the upper stanchion tubes are 45 mm, 2 mm larger and the lower crown is triple pinch and 1/2 taller.


Thanks for the info, Craig :thumb:
 
Oct 14, 2001
67
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Colchester, Ct
Espen said:
What can be said about the performance of the new 34mm piston reservoir vs the original bladder?

Espen
The internal floating piston reservoir was designed to have the same nitrogen volume, so the affect on nitogen pressure ramp-up will be minimal as with the bladder. The piston band is 7 mm wide and made of teflon/ptfe, same as our MTN-3 piston ring, so there is very little stiction. Mostly the more compact design will allow us to fit more frames that have a space restriction. Bottom line, the bladder design is slightly better performance but if your frame does not have the space for it, you can still have a chance to run an Avalanche with the more compact floating piston reservoir.

 

seismic

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2003
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Craig Seekins said:
The internal floating piston reservoir was designed to have the same nitrogen volume, so the affect on nitogen pressure ramp-up will be minimal as with the bladder. The piston band is 7 mm wide and made of teflon/ptfe, same as our MTN-3 piston ring, so there is very little stiction. Mostly the more compact design will allow us to fit more frames that have a space restriction. Bottom line, the bladder design is slightly better performance but if your frame does not have the space for it, you can still have a chance to run an Avalanche with the more compact floating piston reservoir.


Talking about the MTN-3, - what is the reason that the MTN-shock serie is no more in production ? I just wonder in which ways they were different from the DHS serie. Also, I have seen one on an old Big Link and it looked awesome. Would be great to have one :) :) :)
 
Oct 14, 2001
67
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Colchester, Ct
seismic said:
Talking about the MTN-3, - what is the reason that the MTN-shock serie is no more in production ? I just wonder in which ways they were different from the DHS serie. Also, I have seen one on an old Big Link and it looked awesome. Would be great to have one :) :) :)
The MTN-3 would only fit custom frames because it is 11.12 inches eye to eye. We came out with the DHS, a scaled down version to fit O.E.M. frames.
 

seismic

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2003
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Craig Seekins said:
The MTN-3 would only fit custom frames because it is 11.12 inches eye to eye. We came out with the DHS, a scaled down version to fit O.E.M. frames.

Yes...11.12" is quite a big shock I have to admit ! Just wondered how differently it performed compared to the DHS.
Thanks for the answer Craig ! :thumb: