Yep...nice lever ratio and quite progressive !
Avalanche......
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Speaking of which... how would a Gemini FR go with an Avalanche shock? Is the rate a rising leverage design... which I'm told is optimum for the Avalanche to show its stuff?DßR said:
What is the frame`s travel and what is the shock`s ??
seismic said:
did that last night
required some minor dremeling of the upper linkage plate
clearance with the seat tower is about 1mm per side....
550lbs * 3.0" i got on ebay for usd50
ti 550lbs 3" stroke was 420gseismic said:
steel was around 715g
Extrovert said:
no
the v10 has a pretty high leverage ratio at 3,63
the gemini dh has no linkage but leverage ratio is sub-3 so there you go, its not linkage related.
Just to give you an idea of how low the leverage ratio is on a Gemini DH, I am currently running a 250# spring and the bike is oversprung and overdamped for my 165 lbs. I would run a lighter spring if anyone made one. Extrapolating that out you get a less-than 500# spring for someone that weighs 330 lbs. That's pretty damn good.
To keep things nice and simple, look for bikes that come with a 3" or 2.75" stroke shock, and 8" or less of travel. Regardless of what kind of linkages and rates they have, this should keep you in the right ballpark.
To keep things nice and simple, look for bikes that come with a 3" or 2.75" stroke shock, and 8" or less of travel. Regardless of what kind of linkages and rates they have, this should keep you in the right ballpark.
My favorite, 04 Turner DHR got 2.83
Many new DH racers got about 8-9" of travel and uses a 3" stroke shock.
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Many new DH racers got about 8-9" of travel and uses a 3" stroke shock.
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Strange! My friend rides a Gemini and he wanted my 650 pound spring for his Fox. He's about the same weight as you I think, maybe a little more. Says it feels alot better now. Maybe just different riding style?ohio said:
DLo said:Strange! My friend rides a Gemini and he wanted my 650 pound spring for his Fox. He's about the same weight as you I think, maybe a little more. Says it feels alot better now. Maybe just different riding style?
dlo, ohio is referring to the gemini dh which comes stock with the wife-swapper shock.
remember the swingers can be thought about as air-assisted when it comes to spring rate so with a fox youd run a heavier spring rate, say if he has a 250 on the swinger then he`d probably use a 350 with a fox RC.
hm come to think of it, that still doesnt make sense, either your friend is 300lbs-ish or he is using the other gemini frame, that one comes with a 2,25" (instead of 3") stroke shock and has more leverage.
From the Gemini Manual:
2.4 for the Gemini DH
2.4 for the Gemini DH
That's pretty darn low.
But... is it a rising or falling rate? I should know more about it all but I don't... but people say Avalanche is good for bikes that have a progressive leverage ratio, where as SPV is good for bikes that are digressive? True? BS? Am I lost? (yes, and that's all I know right now).
But... is it a rising or falling rate? I should know more about it all but I don't... but people say Avalanche is good for bikes that have a progressive leverage ratio, where as SPV is good for bikes that are digressive? True? BS? Am I lost? (yes, and that's all I know right now).
The thing is, I already have the shock (came off a SC S8), and I'm looking for a new (second hand) bike to transplant it on to. I'm looking at a Gemini FR or 03 ASX for "freeride" allpurpose stuff, and have given thought to an 01 MC Shockwave for more DH-orientated stuff.
Just have to find out what's going to be the most appropriate. And sending it back for rebuilding is out of the question right now, (money matters
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Just have to find out what's going to be the most appropriate. And sending it back for rebuilding is out of the question right now, (money matters
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Rik said:The thing is, I already have the shock (came off a SC S8), and I'm looking for a new (second hand) bike to transplant it on to. I'm looking at a Gemini FR or 03 ASX for "freeride" allpurpose stuff, and have given thought to an 01 MC Shockwave for more DH-orientated stuff.
Just have to find out what's going to be the most appropriate. And sending it back for rebuilding is out of the question right now, (money matters
Just be aware that the shock might act in a totally different way on a new frame...I know it is a matter of $ too, but no doubt a rebuild would be recommended.
seismic said:
maybe you can get craig to send out the shim stack for the new bike, provided the dimensions are the same, or that you can get to the new dimensions only with a shaft spacer, it should work, in your case i the gemini FR uses the same dimensions as the s8 so you should be ok.
switching the shim stacks is not a complex operation and any moto shop that can service an avy should have no problems doing it
I chose the frames mentioned as they all use the same length+stroke as the shock I own. (well, except for the mountain cycle, but that's a bit of a gamble).
As for moto shops doing servicing, I had a rather hard time finding one that would touch it. I spoke to at least 5 that said the 250psi of nitrogen is outside what they're comfortable working with... although I did have success with one shop, it's still extra money I am not willing to spend right now.
As for moto shops doing servicing, I had a rather hard time finding one that would touch it. I spoke to at least 5 that said the 250psi of nitrogen is outside what they're comfortable working with... although I did have success with one shop, it's still extra money I am not willing to spend right now.
Rik said:
fill it with air then, any shock pump will do
no biggie until you find a moto shop that isnt scared of 250psi
I'm only going off what I've been told by them (could be BS excuses), but the most of them run half that.
But really, I can't blame shops for being a bit wary about a product they've never seen/heard of, from a seperate field that isn't really known for having the best quality gear.
But really, I can't blame shops for being a bit wary about a product they've never seen/heard of, from a seperate field that isn't really known for having the best quality gear.
I had the same problem trying to recharge my shock with nitro. Tke MX shop told me that the highest they will go is 175lbs so I had to take it to someone that just deals with MX shocks only cost me 5 bucks.
Maybe just better to send it to Avalanche
Dudes check the News section on the Avy site for the pics of the DHS mt... Looking good!
Sorry if anyones already seen them.
Why the **** did Craig change the polished reservoir? To that!
you shouldn't crosslink to the Avalanche website.The Hitman said:
anyway, if you read the website you will see that these reservoirs were made/developed to fit Avalanche shocks on frames with little space for shock an reservoir.
Wow, the tripple bolt lower crown on the DHF looks great.....and burly !!!
I think he meant the actual color on the large piggy, which seems to have the same color as the main body.UiUiUiUi said:
Trond said:
ups...
sorry