[Udi]

One has to blind not to see the quality of Sram products simply isn't what it used to be ( top notch ) and its now hardly on par with the competition IMO.

Not really, it's always been rubbish (derailleurs made of cast alloy and plastic, brakes that constantly need attention) - if anything they've improved over the years, but they really need to spend more time fixing flaws with existing products before moving onto new ones.

 

[p-spec]

P-spec, Are you fvckin hammered when you decide to post replies???

Holy ****e man, my 3 month old cousin can structure a sentence better than you. You need help.

We have allready gone threw this,secondly I talk and write 2 diff languages perfecly.

I would like you to structure a 3 phrase paragraph for me in french explaining how yuo love mountain biking.

Quit being a fruit cup and quit crying about writing and grammar on the internet,or go on a poetry forum and talk about grammar and words.


panzy

 

[Huck Banzai]

We have allready gone threw this,secondly I talk and write 2 diff languages perfecly.

I would like you to structure a 3 phrase paragraph for me in french explaining how yuo love mountain biking.

Quit being a fruit cup and quit crying about writing and grammar on the internet,or go on a poetry forum and talk about grammar and words.


panzy

its not just the grammar and syntax, its more often the stellar commentary that is out of reach of the typical mind that finds you conveying your ideas in a less than realistic, or believable, fashion.

 

[Huck Banzai]

Not really, it's always been rubbish (derailleurs made of cast alloy and plastic, brakes that constantly need attention) - if anything they've improved over the years, but they really need to spend more time fixing flaws with existing products before moving onto new ones.

I resisted SRAM for a long time, they are definitely quieter derailleurs and (when they are new/working) shift perfectly - its just that I dont like feeling every shift as if someone struck my frame with a hammer, and Id prefer if the damn thing wouldnt wear out its pivot in <1 season for 100+ bucks a pop. Durability of derailleurs has been a SRAM issue since well before the RS/Avid integration.

At least they are consistent..........

 

[Biffff]

We have allready gone threw this,secondly I talk and write 2 diff languages perfecly.

I would like you to structure a 3 phrase paragraph for me in french explaining how yuo love mountain biking.

Quit being a fruit cup and quit crying about writing and grammar on the internet,or go on a poetry forum and talk about grammar and words.


panzy

I do believe he is french so he could probably pull that off pretty easy.

 

[www.amazon.com]

Have a Hope tech v2 which I was really happy with until I hit the lever strait into a tree and sprung a leak in the hose (I think). - the price I really like them, but have been happy with my avids thus far. Had some old juicy 7's which were great for a while and then they kinda...just I dont know. Never have run sram shifting parts though.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

if i worked for either company i would be laughing at this thread a bit...both companies have great line ups...

For a while sram def had a leg up when x.o first came out and that dual shift lever blob was all shimano could offer. But if you buy an x.o or xtr drivetrain and arent happy well...nothing can save you

The only component lacking from either seems to be srams brakes, odd bleeding and lack of reliability. This Palestine vs. Isreal attitude about the 2 companies is somewhat silly.

 

[baca262]

so this thread turned into another sram vs shimano one... while nobody mentioned that that doesn't look like a code caliper.

 

[IH8Rice]

while nobody mentioned that that doesn't look like a code caliper.

nope, they sure dont.

 

[HardtailHack]

that. I have no interest in SRAM's components anymore. They're just so cheap/cheaply made.

I don't get that, as far as I am aware XTR and Saint is still made in Japan and all Sram gear is Taiwanese(and Chinese?). I would expect their top end products to be either better built or a bit cheaper than XTR/Saint but it doesn't really seem that way.

 

[Sandwich]

Sorry, I meant cheap as in plasticky and flimsy. My saint derailleur felt way more significant than my X7. My XTR shifters had no play and smooth action compared to any SRAM I've tried. My juicies felt like toys compared to my XTs or saints. There's just a certain something lacking (tolerances, maybe?) that my shimano toys don't.

 

[William42]

Sorry, I meant cheap as in plasticky and flimsy. My saint derailleur felt way more significant than my X7. My XTR shifters had no play and smooth action compared to any SRAM I've tried. My juicies felt like toys compared to my XTs or saints. There's just a certain something lacking (tolerances, maybe?) that my shimano toys don't.

does your saint der feel way more significant then an lx, or slx? because thats what x7 is comparable to depending on the year

 

[Sandwich]

My current XT and previous SLX felt better than my X7 does now. The Saint is of course chunkier, but it doesn't really feel better built than say the XT...but you know what they say about opinions....my older LX stuff is definitely similar to my X7 stuff now.

 

[davec113]

I've been happy with my Elixir CRs, got 'em on both trail and dh bikes.

 

[HardtailHack]

I must be the only unlucky person with Hope brakes, I have now learned that when you buy a Hope brake it is a good idea to pull exerything aprt and put caliper grease on every moving part.

I've had dramas with sticky pistons on two sets and one of my V2's master cyl felt crap from day one and after pulling it down the anno had worn through in the bore. I'll still go for the Magura brake next purchase I think. After seeing friends running Avids with rubber bands holding the levers in and how often they need bleeding I'll probably never own a set.

 

[Sandwich]

I never had a problem with hope quality, they always worked, they just worked so poorly it wasn't funny. Three finger braking was different. DH04, horrible brake.