Isn't World Champs next?*
*always seems weird when they schedule the Champs for early in the season.
*always seems weird when they schedule the Champs for early in the season.
Cedric regressed this race and was at his most inane and incoherent state. The only complete thoughts he could get out were along the lines of "speed is important". Or my favorite, can't remember the rider "this guy rides like no one else, he pushes against the bike with his feet!"
No points for the overall Cup. Just a single race, no qualis, just seeding run - everyone gets a timed run. Fastest rider gets rainbow sleeve and bragging rights. Fort William (August 4-5 for DH)
Then we go back to the world cup series afterwards in Andorra (August 25-27).
Will be interesting to see how they broadcast it
Where did I hear or read the quote "Daprella crashed three times in his run, but never came off the bike?"
Bitching about something I don’t understand you say?
Faster times= more intensity. Wow,that is Genius Brother! So,the more Intense you are,the faster you will go.
You think they can turn up/down their intensity like a Fuckin Radio. Why don’t you ask Verg who won the Semi Final with the time of 3:36 was it?
Verg,why did’nt you turn up your Intensity for the Final’s? You lost? Well go on,ask um smart ass!
Avy
Just watched the GoPro of Jackson's finals winning run (3:34.926) and Jordan's quali winning run (3:36.164). The course had changed immensely. Friggin' crazy that Jackson went so fast in the final with the course in that shape.
It was also interesting to see how tight the top 4 semis results were:
1st. Loris Vergier: 3:35.394
2nd. Jordan Williams: 3:36.434
3rd. Finn Iles: 3:36.539
4th. Jackson Goldstone: 3:36.595 (+1.2 seconds)
Looking at that, you get the sense riders that for semis riders were riding the main line at speed, but kept their "secret" lines for the finals run. Jackson knocked off 1.669 seconds from his semis run in his finals run.
I imagine they are all trying to figure out the new format and how to manage intensity and effort over those two runs. Ben Coulange in the Full Attack post-race show said they don't get much practice on race day, and in between their semi and finals runs, the track changes a fair bit, especially for those going in the last 5, as 10 women and 25 men run the course in between. So you're kinda guessing how the course will be when you hit it. This is all inherently part of the sport, but there is definitely a new element with the semi run that they are trying to factor in.
I wonder if the riders like Loic, who were so dialed in their race weekend routine are finding it difficult to adapt to the new routine since they are such cerebral riders. But once they figure out their new process, watch out! Or maybe we've entered the age of the Jackson and Jordan show... either way, this is shaping up to be a really fun season to watch.
It was also interesting to see how tight the top 4 semis results were:
1st. Loris Vergier: 3:35.394
2nd. Jordan Williams: 3:36.434
3rd. Finn Iles: 3:36.539
4th. Jackson Goldstone: 3:36.595 (+1.2 seconds)
Looking at that, you get the sense riders that for semis riders were riding the main line at speed, but kept their "secret" lines for the finals run. Jackson knocked off 1.669 seconds from his semis run in his finals run.
I imagine they are all trying to figure out the new format and how to manage intensity and effort over those two runs. Ben Coulange in the Full Attack post-race show said they don't get much practice on race day, and in between their semi and finals runs, the track changes a fair bit, especially for those going in the last 5, as 10 women and 25 men run the course in between. So you're kinda guessing how the course will be when you hit it. This is all inherently part of the sport, but there is definitely a new element with the semi run that they are trying to factor in.
I wonder if the riders like Loic, who were so dialed in their race weekend routine are finding it difficult to adapt to the new routine since they are such cerebral riders. But once they figure out their new process, watch out! Or maybe we've entered the age of the Jackson and Jordan show... either way, this is shaping up to be a really fun season to watch.
Yeah. You've definitely got a point there. I'd have used Minnaar rather than Loic as an example of a cerebral high performing finals rider struggling to adapt to the new format.
It's awesome that there are so many riders capable of taking a win. And such diverse mix of talents and backgrounds in the top 20 now. First year elite rider jordan casually but confidently mixing it up. Then pre programmed bike and media coached from birth Jackson. That dude is pure Sci-fi on a bike. The established riders doing their thing, old hands still mixing it up and nut jobs like Ronan and Tibault just being mental and getting somehow away with it.
Also quite a few established riders must be taking it hard struggling like fuck to even qualify for the semis.
The new format is far too long for viewing. And that's from someone who has so far watched every single GCN broadcast.
It's awesome that there are so many riders capable of taking a win. And such diverse mix of talents and backgrounds in the top 20 now. First year elite rider jordan casually but confidently mixing it up. Then pre programmed bike and media coached from birth Jackson. That dude is pure Sci-fi on a bike. The established riders doing their thing, old hands still mixing it up and nut jobs like Ronan and Tibault just being mental and getting somehow away with it.
Also quite a few established riders must be taking it hard struggling like fuck to even qualify for the semis.
The new format is far too long for viewing. And that's from someone who has so far watched every single GCN broadcast.
given the time difference, i'd never watch live anyways, but it IS nice to scrub through all the tedious BS / backmarkers & just watch the good stuff on the replay. i'm very efficient.
and yeah, fascinating to see the changing of the guard / how the pace has ratcheted up. wild to see all the fast guys not making finals, & lots of sentiment about how much harder / closer to the ragged edge they need to push for results. makes for fun viewing, but perhaps not long careers for these guys.
works fairly decent for me, in my time zone. wake up on Saturday morning and catch the final few women in the finals runs on my phone, in bed. Go down and make a coffee, watch the replay of the final 10 men from the semis (using the ffwd button as needed). Then watch the mens finals live. It only really gets good at the final 20 men anyways. All in all, about 3 hours of watching. I can deal with that, and my family seems to be ok with it too...
Is the YT video’s that I watch the same amount of content as the App? I am thinking no,but I have no idea?
Avy
Yeah. That's nowhere near ALL the coverage though..
@Avy
Friday was jnr women's finals followed by Jnr men finals (around an hour and a half for both races)
Then next day elite women Semi followed by Elite Men (around two and half hours)
with barely a break before the Elite Women's finals (an hour) then Elite Men's Finals (two and a half hours)
I do prefer to watch any racing live though
Thank You Brother. That is busy and time consuming like you said. Even more so watching it Live.
Avy
Yeah it’s crazy,the point system. Still workin on it. Let’s see what happens at Worlds. Vali has bone to pick.
toodles,what gives the most points being “First” in each race. Quali,Semi or Final? Last,do they get extra points for winning 2 out of 3,or all 3?
Edit: Is not Mom Atherton coming to the show? I think yes,I hope,I don’t really know actually?
Avy
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to be fair, I didn't know they were his
I just generally piss in cornflakes on principle
| Mens | Womens | ||||||
| Quali | Semi final | Final | Quali | Semi final | Final | ||
| 1 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 50 | 100 | 250 | |
| 2 | 40 | 80 | 210 | 40 | 80 | 210 | |
| 3 | 30 | 70 | 180 | 30 | 70 | 180 | |
| 4 | 25 | 65 | 160 | 25 | 60 | 150 | |
| 5 | 22 | 60 | 140 | 20 | 50 | 120 | |
| 6 | 20 | 58 | 125 | 16 | 40 | 90 | |
| 7 | 18 | 56 | 110 | 14 | 35 | 80 | |
| 8 | 17 | 54 | 95 | 12 | 40 | 70 | |
| 9 | 16 | 52 | 80 | 10 | 25 | 60 | |
| 10 | 15 | 50 | 75 | 5 | 20 | 50 |
*edit* well fuck me you can copy and paste from spreadsheets into here.
@Avy thats the breakdown in points. No bonus points for the clean sweep of all the weekend races, just a good points haul and crushing the souls of your competitors.
Rachel was only supposed to race the first race and World Champs originally. She did the second race just cos she slammed the first but skipped VDS after being diagnosed with sanity and to save/prepare herself for the Ft Bill World Champs.
Mental racing this year, even though the past couple of years have been epic. Even my wife is blown away when she watches the last riders come down. VDS is a beast of a track and makes for great viewing. I like the race format. It adds a new element and it wasn’t a complete flop, as a new concept. I did notice that riders were struggling to untangle themselves if they got caught up in the tape, as it doesn’t snap/break easily.
Regarding Jackson and Jordan entering 1st year elite, and aside from smoking pretty much the entire field, they didn’t come in and over cook things. Their runs are not wild and over the edge, with crashes most races. We have seen a lot of previous year juniors light up the scene with wild runs until they learn to compose themselves. Can be great viewing but no consistency. Jordan and Jacko are winning with fast smooth/clean runs. Insane talent.
I am loving how stoked everyone is on watching the juniors attack the track in practice runs etc. Our sport is looking healthy for years to come.
Regarding Jackson and Jordan entering 1st year elite, and aside from smoking pretty much the entire field, they didn’t come in and over cook things. Their runs are not wild and over the edge, with crashes most races. We have seen a lot of previous year juniors light up the scene with wild runs until they learn to compose themselves. Can be great viewing but no consistency. Jordan and Jacko are winning with fast smooth/clean runs. Insane talent.
I am loving how stoked everyone is on watching the juniors attack the track in practice runs etc. Our sport is looking healthy for years to come.
The best thing to come out of the Disco WB thingo is the juniors being televised. Its so fucking good to watch. They're waaaaay more loose. There's some seriously sharp talent coming through
2/3 of the races were won by first year seniors this year.
That's fuckin bananas. Juniors are wild right now.
Thank You Brother. OK,as suggested by someone here,I am starting a New Thread for Worlds.
Avy
a lot of fluffing going on though... soooo much fluffing.That whole podcast is worth a listen.
"Eddie ran Bergamont off a cracked iPhone"
You are a real cunt. How old are you? I can take a good grilling,but you have no eggs in the basket,no ground underneath you’re feat Brother.
Yes I saw Diprelas run. As if I did not know the track was worse?
Didn’t work out for Verg,nothing new. What a Joke that comment is. I can not comment any more with you,waste of fucking time. Last,you better Hope Verg does not win. If in the case he does,I will call it the fwp Verg Victory lap for every fucking win here forth. Mock me.
Avy
Whole thread's been a kinda, "retard race to the bottom" for a few pages now.
Couple of other threads seem to be going the same way of late......
Couple of other threads seem to be going the same way of late......
Partial credit 
A lil bit of you slipping, and and others stepping up teh stupids.
A lil bit of you slipping, and and others stepping up teh stupids.
Has it ever been different on Pink... ehem, I mean Ridemonkey?
Olly Wilkins has always come across as one of the most fun people you could possibly go on a ride with and he's really good on this podcast.That whole podcast is worth a listen.
"Eddie ran Bergamont off a cracked iPhone"