[buckoW]

Sounds like Cathro chipped a bone or fractured something in his back..

Ben Cathro on Instagram: "Well that got serious all of a sudden ☠️ I made some huge changes to my bike on the second day of practice then tried to turn up the heat before qualies and got caught out when my bike reacted differently to how I was expecting. I caught way more airtime than planned out of the compression before the road, landed heavy, blew both feet out my pedals then just held on for the ride. Totally rider error for adding speed before building familiarity. I initially thought I was going to slide down the hill on my side so you can hear my surprise when the front wheel dug in and spat me into the air. Landing heavily on my bum caused a stable compression fracture of my T12 vertebrae which means 3 months off my bike. My focus now is on recuperation, maintaining the fitness, helping run Pinkbike Racing and producing the Pinkbike videos. I’m lucky to have other things I’m passionate about to focus on while I’m off the bike. Massive thanks to the medical team who safely got me off the hill and treated my injuries at Chur hospital. Also thank you to Mr and Mrs Brosnan for keeping me calm and capturing the footage of the evac. Shout out to @netperformance.me, @wynmasters and the #PinkbikeRacing crew for visiting and raising the spirits and finally to all the sponsors for their patience as I fuse some bones back together ❤️ @man_down_media - crash sequence Mr Brosnan - evac vid @jacktennyson_ - riding shots #pinkbikeracing @pinkbike @conti_mtb @santacruzbicycles @fiveten_official @dharcoclothing @shimanomtb @ixsmtb @deitycomponents @reservewheels @manitoumtb @cushcore @stansnotubes @outsidemagazine"

20K likes, 579 comments - ben_cathro on June 11, 2023: "Well that got serious all of a sudden ☠️ I made some huge changes to my bike on the second day of practice then tried to turn up the heat before qualies and got caught out when my bike reacted differently to how I was expecting. I caught...

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[SylentK]

Overall, I think it was mostly enjoyable. My feedback:

1) Commentators - Ric and Cedric aren't bad. It can just be better. (It's no Rob Warner). Like, can we have a 3rd person, maybe Eliot Jackson in the booth and keep Cedric to the fun comments, and have Eliot and Ric on the play-by-play? I do enjoy Cedric's racing experience comments. I'm also wondering if there is a French specific broadcast? Maybe he'd be better there? He has good english, but sacre blue/baguettes comments keep me scratching my head.

2) New Format - Unless I'm actually at the race, I really don't care about qualies or semis. I've only got so much time in my weekend. So I will only watch the main event. Like in MX, do you watch all the heats? I don't, who has got time for that?

3) Coverage was good enough. I'm talking cameras on course. Not sure why they didn't show the top for every rider. I thought that was one of the most interesting sectors to watch. Obviously, some production issues they need to work through. But who knew red/green on times would be a thing? I'd say the UI/UX team needs to rethink some things. Mainly, too much red and green when it doesn't mean anything. Red and green in racing means something. If not, use another color. Just saying. I can see they are trying to make it look good. Which it does. But not in this context. I'm not browsing your website, I'm looking for racing information quickly and color means something.

Looking forward to the next one!

 

[slimshady]

Aside from the videograph's horrible errors (red times colored green and vice versa, poor choice of colors, not enough/too much stats on screen, etc) I think the camera placement better highlighted the track's slope/inclination when compared to the RB broadcasts.

 

[aaronjb]

N1N0 setting a record today that will stand for a long while with most XC wins.

 

[Gary]

if anyone finds a replay link plz post!

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[SylentK]

N1N0 setting a record today that will stand for a long while with most XC wins.

Thomas Frischnect (sp?) on the verge of tears. Aww...

Schurter has more fitness in his pinky finger than I do in my entire body! Excellent work Nino, keep up the whips in XC racing

 

[Gary]

I thought the commentary was indeed not great for juniors. Cedric was sometimes getting carried away with excitement and losing track of what he wanted to say... I thought, it was already much better (and actually quite good) for semis and finals however.

What time did you start drinking at?

 

[Westy]

Why? Someone collected more points in quali and semi finals.

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From the pink site.

Oh I get why, the why is just stupid.

 

[FlipSide]

What time did you start drinking at?

I watched the race before going for a ride.

By reading the negative comment online (that were probably based on the Juniors commentary?), I was expecting an unwatchable trainwreck. I found the commentary was fine for the finals. Not quite as good as Warner, of course, but I had a great time watching the race. I am confident they will do a fine job...we just need to give them a couple of race to improve a bit and it will be just fine.

 

[canadmos]

Ben Cathro on Instagram: "Well that got serious all of a sudden ☠️ I made some huge changes to my bike on the second day of practice then tried to turn up the heat before qualies and got caught out when my bike reacted differently to how I was expecting. I caught way more airtime than planned out of the compression before the road, landed heavy, blew both feet out my pedals then just held on for the ride. Totally rider error for adding speed before building familiarity. I initially thought I was going to slide down the hill on my side so you can hear my surprise when the front wheel dug in and spat me into the air. Landing heavily on my bum caused a stable compression fracture of my T12 vertebrae which means 3 months off my bike. My focus now is on recuperation, maintaining the fitness, helping run Pinkbike Racing and producing the Pinkbike videos. I’m lucky to have other things I’m passionate about to focus on while I’m off the bike. Massive thanks to the medical team who safely got me off the hill and treated my injuries at Chur hospital. Also thank you to Mr and Mrs Brosnan for keeping me calm and capturing the footage of the evac. Shout out to @netperformance.me, @wynmasters and the #PinkbikeRacing crew for visiting and raising the spirits and finally to all the sponsors for their patience as I fuse some bones back together ❤️ @man_down_media - crash sequence Mr Brosnan - evac vid @jacktennyson_ - riding shots #pinkbikeracing @pinkbike @conti_mtb @santacruzbicycles @fiveten_official @dharcoclothing @shimanomtb @ixsmtb @deitycomponents @reservewheels @manitoumtb @cushcore @stansnotubes @outsidemagazine"

20K likes, 579 comments - ben_cathro on June 11, 2023: "Well that got serious all of a sudden ☠️ I made some huge changes to my bike on the second day of practice then tried to turn up the heat before qualies and got caught out when my bike reacted differently to how I was expecting. I caught...

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Damn, that looks more serious than what he portrayed in the video!

 

[jstuhlman]

just watched the ladies top 3...vali was clearly stoked for rachel after cami's run, smiling and hugging her and spraying her with water. so sure, she probably was disappointed with herself later but she was clearly not a sourpuss towards her competitors...and shit, rach was MOVING

 

[Gary]

I watched the race before going for a ride.

By reading the negative comment online (that were probably based on the Juniors commentary?), I was expecting an unwatchable trainwreck. I found the commentary was fine for the finals. Not quite as good as Warner, of course, but I had a great time watching the race. I am confident they will do a fine job...we just need to give them a couple of race to improve a bit and it will be just fine.

I watched the whole thing. Jnr finals, Elite Semis and Elite Finals (M&F).

Because Jnr finals is so small/short and it being their final (ie. meaningful) commentary wasn't actually too bad. Elite Semis commetary on the other hand was quite dire at times with very little buzz to it at all. Rik & Cedric repeated quite a lot of the same points, insights etc. throughout each presentation which didn't help but TBF WTF new would anyone have left to say commenting on 200+ race runs over 6hrs of competition on the same track with the same few camera positions? The drama of live finals is what made the commentary better as always as the race unfolds with faster and faster riders we're rooting for/expecting to see the next fastest times.

I also watched the full mens XC race live today and for that I thought Rik was pretty decent (Obvs not as good as Rob was) and his commentary worked well with Bart.
Any new presenter is going to have big boots to fill after all the Freecaster/Red bull races Warner did with various others. Rik is ok and Cedric is great in small chunks/interviews etc. But I can't really see Cedric improving massively at long stints of live commentary.
Reece was great again on camera. Josh Carlson is also good but why the fuck did they think it'd work well shoehorning his bits in DURING folks DH race runs? (They did the same with the XC and it did work a bit better there)

 

[Gary]

shit, rach was MOVING

She did have a baby to get back down to feed, mind

 

[Fool]

So, after round one, how are we feeling about ESO's assertion that more racing won't increase the rate of injury

 

[ebarker9]

So, after round one, how are we feeling about ESO's assertion that more racing won't increase the rate of injury

I don't know, are there more people out than usual? It doesn't necessarily feel like it to me but probably hard to track.

 

[fwp]

Just watched it last night
Rachel is still on another level despite training only 2 months. What a great story
What a talent in Jordan Williams, looked like all the guys besides loris had clean runs too, thats just scary.

 

[jonKranked]

#whereswarner

 

[Gary]

#motorcycling

 

[canadmos]

Rachel is still on another level despite training only 2 months. What a great story

Not taking anything away from what she did, its awesome to see! But......she does have a pretty kickass looking bike park at her disposal pretty much. I think theres more to it than "training only for 2 months"

Even months ago or maybe it was late last year, she was in a few other videos from people visiting Dyfi and even then it looked like she could have dropped most of them.

 

[Gary]

Ah.. So she had an advantage from riding her bike previous to beginning training.

FFS

 

[canadmos]

Goddammit Gary, no Gary.

She has an advantage because she is just simply a way better rider than 100% of all the other females on the planet, at this current time.

 

[fwp]

Not taking anything away from what she did, its awesome to see! But......she does have a pretty kickass looking bike park at her disposal pretty much. I think theres more to it than "training only for 2 months"

Even months ago or maybe it was late last year, she was in a few other videos from people visiting Dyfi and even then it looked like she could have dropped most of them.

Its Rachel Atherton she could drop 99.9% of park rats with zero training.
She spotted the field 4 years and came back and won. I doubt thats ever happened in any sport.

 

[ebarker9]

It's a really, really impressive performance, especially with the new format. She came in with the least prep of any of the top women, having only put in a short period of training, only riding at one bike park, and no racing for multiple years other than last year's one off. She definitely looked to be tired toward the bottom of the finals run and that effort was still good enough to beat a younger, better prepared field.

 

[Westy]

It's a really, really impressive performance, especially with the new format. She came in with the least prep of any of the top women, having only put in a short period of training, only riding at one bike park, and no racing for multiple years other than last year's one off. She definitely looked to be tired toward the bottom of the finals run and that effort was still good enough to beat a younger, better prepared field.

Vali seems to be equally talented yet less prepared

 

[Gary]

Nah

 

[toodles]

So, after round one, how are we feeling about ESO's assertion that more racing won't increase the rate of injury

The injury list is pretty mental and some big names as well. Buuuuut - nearly all those were prior to finals, with less actual racing. I'd argue that if anything the modified (sped up) tracks and less practice time possibly more dangerous than the extra race run.

The average speed for the winning run must be some kind of record surely.

 

[6thElement]

The average speed for the winning run must be some kind of record surely.

I did like seeing the live speed on screen at times. Some serious mach chicken into dark woods.

 

[DaveW]

Vali seems to be equally talented yet less prepared

Talented yes,
BUT without Rachel's discipline and experience.
That's what's holding Vali back.

 

[norbar]

To the guys that liked the feed. Did you actually hear the presenters clearly? Since I heard shit. Does the app have some sound compression issues on appletv or sth? I am pretty good at understandling quiet mumbling but this was a problem for me.

 

[Westy]

To the guys that liked the feed. Did you actually hear the presenters clearly? Since I heard shit. Does the app have some sound compression issues on appletv or sth? I am pretty good at understandling quiet mumbling but this was a problem for me.

I thought the streaming quality was very good and a lot better than Redbull. Which is to be expected as I paid for it.

I do wish they would show the starting order during the race. They really only showed it at the beginning and I often like to figure the best case result for say someone sitting on the hotseat which requires knowing who else is due to come down.

Could look it up but I always watch the evening after the race and don't want to accidentally see results.

 

[jstuhlman]

I just watched the top 3 run replays for men and women and honestly wasn't bothered by the commentary as much as I thought I would be.

 

[DaveW]

Sound quality was fine, resolution/bandwidth/image on a par with redbull for me.

 

[sethimus]

is it 4k yet?

 

[slyfink]

Camille has been one of my favourite riders, and one of the anchors on my fantasy league teams for at least 4 years... awesome to hear that she's as big of a geek about riding and gear as we are!

 

[Gary]

To the guys that liked the feed. Did you actually hear the presenters clearly? Since I heard shit. Does the app have some sound compression issues on appletv or sth? I am pretty good at understandling quiet mumbling but this was a problem for me.

crystal clear for the duration of every race I viewed (incl XC)
I don't have apple TV. Just the app on chromecast and my phone

 

[slimshady]

I just watched the top 3 run replays for men and women and honestly wasn't bothered by the commentary as much as I thought I would be.

It's an accumulation problem, once you've heard Rick and Cedric spit the same nonsense about a blown berm 153 times you kinda wish they'd come up with a couple new lines...

 

[slimshady]

To the guys that liked the feed. Did you actually hear the presenters clearly? Since I heard shit. Does the app have some sound compression issues on appletv or sth? I am pretty good at understandling quiet mumbling but this was a problem for me.

I watched it via the Russian hacker site I linked before, audio was OK on my Mac laptop (via Chrome browser).

 

[Westy]

It's an accumulation problem, once you've heard Rick and Cedric spit the same nonsense about a blown berm 153 times you kinda wish they'd come up with a couple new lines...

I repeatedly learned from Cedric that world cup riders are fast and cranking is important. Which is strange as after years of listening to Claudio I thought releasing brakes was the key.

 

[OGRipper]

I do wish they would show the starting order during the race. They really only showed it at the beginning and I often like to figure the best case result for say someone sitting on the hotseat which requires knowing who else is due to come down.

Agree. Overall it was fine, but that was frustrating, and I was also annoyed at how they seemed to wait longer between runs for the top riders as compared to riders lower down. Felt like they were really milking it toward the end. I mean hey, we've got rides to ride!

 

[slimshady]

I repeatedly learned from Cedric that world cup riders are fast and cranking is important. Which is strange as after years of listening to Claudio I thought releasing brakes was the key.

"You know it's mountain bike because they're going fast".