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B-2 Stealth Bomber goes down in Guam

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  1. kev211

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    crazy, i just heard about that too
     
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    Dartman Old Bastard Mike

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    Oh man,
    I hope they will be able to find it.
     
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    brungeman I give a shirt

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    beat me to it! :thumb:
    :rofl:
     
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    Much like Jeremy R and brungeman, I don't see how they would find it, but I am more intrigued by this line from the article, "and no munitions were on board."

    Why wouldn't a bomber have bombs??? What a let down.
     
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    B2 is not a fighter... the F117 (stealth fighter) has been decommissioned and stacked in the AZ desert. Several F117's crashed.
     
  8. moff_quigley

    moff_quigley Why don't you have a seat over there?

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    The F-117 isn't a fighter either. It has no offensive capability. The AF names these things "fighters" to stroke the pilots' egos. FB-111 comes to mind as well. Another misnamed plane.
     
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    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    The f117 is not a fighter.
     
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    Ya, ya, ya. I think that when you bomb something and blow sh!t up youre fighting it. I know its not a "fighter," but it does bomb stuff sooo ya. What about the SR-71, could that be considered a stealth fighter?
     
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    ok now we all came to the conclusionthese things are no fighters, but are the really "stealth"? ;)
     
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    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    No, it makes it a bomber. Fighters fight other aircraft.

    The SR71 was a long distance, high altitude recon craft. It had no armament of any kind, air to air or air to ground. So no, it isn't a fighter. Technically, it wasn't stealth either.
     
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    Quo Fan don't make me kick your ass

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    The SR-71 was originally designed as a fighter, but in tests, it kept flying into it's own munitions.
     
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    moff_quigley Why don't you have a seat over there?

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    Depends on what you consider "stealth." They elude radar but if you can see it you can shoot it.
     
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    damn i was trying and obviously failing miserably to make fun ofthe discussion...

    + to be serious these aircraft do not completely elude radar, they just have smaller radar echos.
     
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    Yeah but their radar signatures are so small they are usually mistaken for clutter, or even flocks of birds. So it might as well be invisible :nerd:
     
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    The F 117 is classified as a fighter, hence the F designator. However, it does not go air to air or air to ground in the classic fighter sense, nor does it have a chain gun or missile mounts. The B2is a bomber in the classic sense.
    Either way, bump up the budget a touch to replace this thing...
     
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    A small issue by the AF's standards. :busted:
     
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    That is just silly. There was talk of a kinetic energy bomb for it.
     
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    Would have made the explosion a whole hell of a lot cooler.
     
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    the YF-12, Mach 3.2 interceptor
     
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    Nate's a lover, not a fighter! :biggrin:

    sorry Nate, you left the door wide open on that one buddy."

    Oh, and SR-71 is not a fighter, it's a band.
     
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    If you want to get real geeky about it, it was originally designed as a reconnaissance craft--the A-11--as the CIA wanted something that couldn't be shot down. The A-12 variant came next (and, yes, the radar cross section was reduced).
     
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    Millitary aircraft don't carry munitions while on training missions.
     
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    Sorry, wrongo chief! :busted:

    Actually I re-read this today and thought, hmmm, classified radar absorbing material left out in the desert for any anti-american here to simply go out to the desert and steal a piece of the wing material and sell to the middle east? The material used to make the stealth is still classified information. I just don't believe the U.S. Military would do that.

    So I went looking. The F-117's are not sitting in the desert stacked. They have had their wings unbolted and they are being stored for possible later use. But they are being kept battle ready. Eventually I take it when we have far superior fighters, we will probably sell our old F-117A's to a foreign ally, like we did with old F-16's. We sell them the plane, but we remove all the guts and their technology and sell them the shell basically. By then we'll have the tech to detect our own stealths or at least recognize their signature so they won't be a threat to us. Read this article.

    http://www.av8rconnection.com/f-117-stealth-fighters-being-retired/

    The new Raptor has taken the place of the Stealth F-117A because of it's extreme agility capability, power capability and better overall design to the stealth and I would think it's probably got a better range, as well as ordinance capability. I personally like the looks of the stealth over the raptor.

    I can tell you for first hand knowledge. The material the stealth and raptor are made from are composites that the U.S. government will keep sacred, so much so, they'll kick you out of your own home.

    You may recall a few years back, national news headlines, an F-117A stealth fighter crashed at an air show over Maryland. The military swarmed in and took over the entire area within minutes and forced people out of their own homes for several days claiming national security issues. There is a very good article here about it.

    http://f-117a.com/793.html

    I remember the people on local TV complaining about literally being given by the military only like three minutes to get a few things from their home and then being wisked off their own property not allowed to look at or examine the wreckage.

    Pretty scary what the government can do.
     
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    We already do. My dad wrote the software for it. I know for sure its on the USS Ronald Reagan, and might be on the Nimitz
     
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    is there really a good point in making "fighters" anymore? I mean how many dogfights have there been lately?
     
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    fighters dont necessarily have to be in a dog fight to be a "fighter". F-18s can drop bombs, and also use their missiles for high speed passes at anti-aircraft that are for shooting down bambers. the 20mm cannons are also good for taking out little al-qaeda guys jogging around on the ground.
     
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    SR 71 was designed as a fighter? Where do you get that? A fighter that operates 25 miles up?? Just dont see it...
    It was actually designed as areplacement for the Valkyrie, a bomber that never quite worked out. There was a famous Valkyrie crash in the So Cal desert, not far from where I live.
     
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    Yeh I know too. Wasn't sure but I had heard that info somewhere in my past history either read or on TV somewhere. Oh, I know who it was, it was Ronal Reagan on the Nimitz. :biggrin:
     
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    well, thats jut confusing to read :shocked:. Haha, I know its on other ships too, I just dont remember which. The reagan and Nimitz are based righte where I live, so I know for sure bout those 2. Ill ask my dad about the others