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Iran Threatens U.S. With 'Harm and Pain' By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer




VIENNA, Austria - Iran threatened the United States with "harm and pain" Wednesday for its role in hauling Tehran before the U.N. Security Council over its nuclear program.


But the United States and its European allies said Iran's nuclear intransigence left the world no choice but to ask for Security Council action. The council could impose economic and political sanctions on Iran.

The statements were delivered to the 35-member board of the International Atomic Energy Agency, which is meeting to focus on Tehran's refusal to freeze uranium enrichment.

The meeting is in effect the last step before the Security Council begins considering Iran's nuclear activities and international fears they could be misused to make weapons. It began with both Iran and nations which oppose its enrichment plans sticking to their positions, reflecting the deadlock that prompted the IAEA board to seek Security Council intervention.

"The United States has the power to cause harm and pain," said a statement delivered by the Iranian delegation. "But the United States is also susceptible to harm and pain. So if that is the path that the U.S. wishes to choose, let the ball roll."

The statement did not elaborate on what Iran meant by "harm and pain," and Iranian officials were not immediately available to comment.

But diplomats accredited to the meeting and in contact with the Iranians said the statement could be a veiled threat to use oil as an economic weapon.

Iran is the second-largest producer within the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, and a boycott could target Europe, China or India.

The republic also could cause difficulties in southern Iraq. On Tuesday, U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld accused Tehran of dispatching elements of its Revolutionary Guard to stir trouble inside Iraq.

Iran's statement was unusually harsh, reflecting Tehran's frustration at failing to deflect the threat of Security Council action against it in the coming weeks. Tehran maintains its nuclear program is for generating electricity.

"Our nation has made its decision to fully use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes and all have to give in to this decision made by the Iranian nation," Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in Iran. "We have made our choice."

Iran also attacked "warmongers in Washington" for what it said was an unjust accusation that Tehran's nuclear intentions were mainly for military use. It also suggested America was vulnerable, despite its strength.

"Surely we are not naive about the United States' ... intention to flex muscles," the statement said. "But we also see the bone fractures underneath."

It also threatened broader retaliation, without being specific, saying Iran "will adapt our policy and adjust our approach to conform with the new exigencies."

Earlier, U.S. delegate Gregory Schulte insisted in comments to the board that "the time has now come for the Security Council to act."

He ticked off Iran's decision to curtail agency inspections, its expanding uranium enrichment program and worrying conclusions by IAEA inspectors that suggest at least past interest in nuclear arms as contributing to "mounting international concerns" about Tehran's nuclear intentions.

"Iran has still not come clean," he said.

Schulte listed Tehran's possession of plans that could only be used to make nuclear warheads, links between its nuclear programs and the military, and its determination to develop a large-scale enrichment program that could be misused to make nuclear arms.

"IAEA inspectors have no doubt this information was expressly intended for the fabrication of nuclear weapons components," Schulte said of documents showing how to form fissile material into warheads.

Separately, France, Germany and Britain, which spearheaded the Feb. 4 IAEA resolution clearing the path for Security Council action, warned that what is known about Iran's enrichment program could represent only "the tip of the iceberg."

It also spoke of "indicators of a possible military dimension to Iran's (nuclear) program" as "a legitimate source of intense concern."

"We believe that the time has ... come for the U.N. Security Council to reinforce the authority" of the IAEA and its board, the European statement said.

Ahmadinejad's comments — and U.S. and Russian statements the day before rejecting any compromise allowing Tehran to enrich uranium domestically — set the stage for Security Council action once the IAEA board meeting hears about the latest investigations into Iran's nuclear program and debates the issue.

Russia and China, which have Security Council vetoes, may use them to foil any resolution in that chamber that would meaningfully increase pressure on Iran, their political and economic ally. Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing appealed Tuesday for more negotiations and suggested Security Council involvement was not needed.

The Chinese and Russian statements to the board were relatively moderate, said delegates inside the closed meeting. China urged "more time for diplomacy" before any Security Council action, one delegate said on condition of anonymity, quoting from the Chinese statement.

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Associated Press reporter Palma Benczenleitner contributed to this report.

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Old Man G Funk

Old Man G Funk

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The Amish said:
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I don't know. Is it the case of someone who really can't do harm just blustering? If a two year old said he would do you harm, would you beat him down? Is Iran like a two year old that can't really do harm, or not?
 
PonySoldier

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Old Man G Funk said:
I don't know. Is it the case of someone who really can't do harm just blustering? If a two year old said he would do you harm, would you beat him down? Is Iran like a two year old that can't really do harm, or not?
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I doubt this matters to the current administration...given the level of blustering here I suspect its an attempt to create another distraction from the enormous Goat F**k next door..
 
Old Man G Funk

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PonySoldier said:
I doubt this matters to the current administration...given the level of blustering here I suspect its an attempt to create another distraction from the enormous Goat F**k next door..
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Did you mean that the US Admin is trying to create a distraction with Iran's comments?
 
fluff

fluff

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So what they are saying amounts to "bring it on"? Where have we heard that before?

Oh yeah, from posturing macho idiots everywhere.
 
Echo

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The fact that there are people who think they can talk Bush out of invading Iran is amusing. He made his mind up years ago. That f*cker is going to be the end of the world, I swear.
 
The Amish

The Amish

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Echo said:
The fact that there are people who think they can talk Bush out of invading Iran is amusing. He made his mind up years ago. That f*cker is going to be the end of the world, I swear.
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Atleast you can take him at his word. If nothing else I have faith that he says what he means and means what he says. Id prefer that to a leader that will change his positions with the wind if it means holding on to his power. He told us he was gonna F em up before his reelection and people were cool enough with it to vote him back into office. I say let him go
 
Echo

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The Amish said:
Atleast you can take him at his word. If nothing else I have faith that he says what he means and means what he says. Id prefer that to a leader that will change his positions with the wind if it means holding on to his power. He told us he was gonna F em up before his reelection and people were cool enough with it to vote him back into office. I say let him go
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But why all this charade of pretending to try diplomacy? Just drop a couple nukes on those towelheads and get it over with right? Might as well hit Syria while we're there, they have tons of oil. Venezuela too. Hell if Russia didn't have nukes we'd be sendin troops up there too.
 
The Amish

The Amish

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Echo said:
But why all this charade of pretending to try diplomacy? Just drop a couple nukes on those towelheads and get it over with right? Might as well hit Syria while we're there, they have tons of oil. Venezuela too. Hell if Russia didn't have nukes we'd be sendin troops up there too.
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Because of liberal wacko's like you that pretend these people have any sense of reason what so ever.:) IF we didnt atleast pretend to find a diplomatic solution you'd all be screamin bloody murder. S""t you still will. Who cares, george is gonna do what george is gonna do.
 
Echo

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The Amish said:
Because of liberal wacko's like you that pretend these people have any sense of reason what so ever.:) IF we didnt atleast pretend to find a diplomatic solution you'd all be screamin bloody murder. S""t you still will. Who cares, george is gonna do what george is gonna do.
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Just remember if they had the guns we'd be the bitches.
 
ohio

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The Amish said:
If nothing else I have faith that he says what he means and means what he says. Id prefer that to a leader that will change his positions with the wind if it means holding on to his power.
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Yeah nothing like a leader that keeps driving on the wrong side of the road because he thought it was the the right side, and is too bull-headed (or simply doesn't care) to admit he was wrong.

You've got to respect his wllingness to drive the SUV full of kids right into an 18-wheeler.
 
Silver

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The Amish said:
Atleast you can take him at his word. If nothing else I have faith that he says what he means and means what he says. Id prefer that to a leader that will change his positions with the wind if it means holding on to his power. He told us he was gonna F em up before his reelection and people were cool enough with it to vote him back into office. I say let him go
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Then you're a retard.

Here's your unwavering leader, by the way:

http://www.lisarein.com/videos/tvclips/dailyapril2003/4-28-03-bushvbush-sm.mov
 
The Amish

The Amish

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MOst of those are just a play on words. You could make a list just as long for any other politician in office.

Flip: I did not have sexual relations with that women
FLop: WELL I did let her blow me a bit
 
ohio

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The Amish said:
Flip: I did not have sexual relations with that women
FLop: WELL I did let her blow me a bit
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Really, it's more of a lie than a flip flop. But even if it's a flip flop, it's one with pretty minimal consequenses for anyone beyond the offender's family.

A flip flop would be claiming no intention of involving the US in world affairs and a an intention to focus on domestic affairs, and then invading two countries at the cost of hundreds of billions, while allowing your own country to crumble domestically.

Are you really going to equate the two?
 
fluff

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ohio said:
Really, it's more of a lie than a flip flop. But even if it's a flip flop, it's one with pretty minimal consequenses for anyone beyond the offender's family.

A flip flop would be claiming no intention of involving the US in world affairs and a an intention to focus on domestic affairs, and then invading two countries at the cost of hundreds of billions, while allowing your own country to crumble domestically.

Are you really going to equate the two?
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C'mon clearly lying about sex with an intern is far worse than taking your nation to war on misrepresented intelligence. The first shows a weakness to base instinct, the second deviousness and strong will; you want a weak leader?
 
ohio

ohio

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The Amish said:
OK, I voted for the war before I voted against it
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I'm sorry, I must have missed where I mentioned Kerry. I was pretty sure we were talking baout Bush and Clinton.

By the way, if you had even a basic understanding of the political process you would understand why Kerry's statement was not actually a flip flop.
 
The Amish

The Amish

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I thought we were talking about flipflopin politicians in general Either way Kerry lost because his whole campaign was a flip flop. Couldnt even beat george and he's a total chode. Dems are sad
 
sanjuro

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If Iran steps to us, we are going to show them the real House of Pain:



Step to this, mutha fukers!
 
Changleen

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The Amish said:
I thought we were talking about flipflopin politicians in general Either way Kerry lost because his whole campaign was a flip flop. Couldnt even beat george and he's a total chode. Dems are sad
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The democratic party may well be a joke, but that doesn't change the fact that Bush, Cheney et al. are a bunch of evil lying thieves who are raping everything good about your country. It's very sad that there are still people left that after 6 years of this crap still cannot see that plainly obvious fact.
 
The Amish

The Amish

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Changleen said:
The democratic party may well be a joke, but that doesn't change the fact that Bush, Cheney et al. are a bunch of evil lying thieves who are raping everything good about your country. It's very sad that there are still people left that after 6 years of this crap still cannot see that plainly obvious fact.
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As an american its quite clear that all politicians bend us over and ass rape us on a daily basis. All the protests and angry letters in the world wont change the fact that your average american has no control over any of our countries policies what so ever. Bend over and take it thats the american way. Couldnt change it if we wanted too:nopity:
 
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