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stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
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Westy said:
Not everyone will feel the pinch the same way. A lot of folks will end up jobless/homeless and in deep ****. Others will end up getting shot and robbed when less savory people hit rock bottom. It is a lot easier to say suck it up when you are not one of the people that has to suck it up.

Me, I just got a raise today.:monkeydance:
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We just bought a house and my job security scares me. I'm not sure how we would do it without my salary. I'm all for a free market and the market should crash because of the sins of the banks/investors however the fact that I may have to pay for the sins of greedy people is a shame.

Thankfully my wife is a tenured teacher.
 
X3pilot

X3pilot

Texans fan - LOL
Aug 13, 2007
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My house I purchased in 2005 in the Lehigh Valley area of PA amid the great mass exodus of NY/NJ that was overpriced at 300,000 is worth about 225,000 today according to the paper here yesterday, but it's paid off, I have minimal $$ in the 401k, most of it's in mutual funds or savings, I'm riding it out.


Oh, and I bought like 20 cases of beenie-weeines on sale the other week, let it burn!!!
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
X3pilot said:
My house I purchased in 2005 in the Lehigh Valley area of PA amid the great mass exodus of NY/NJ that was overpriced at 300,000 is worth about 225,000 today according to the paper here yesterday, but it's paid off, I have minimal $$ in the 401k, most of it's in mutual funds or savings, I'm riding it out.


Oh, and I bought like 20 cases of beenie-weeines on sale the other week, let it burn!!!
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HOw the F' did you pay a house off that you bought in 2005?
 
SkaredShtles

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
65,969
12,893
In a van.... down by the river
stosh said:
We just bought a house and my job security scares me. I'm not sure how we would do it without my salary.
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You'll find something else to do to make money. You'll continue to pay your mortgage... grow a big garden... spend your free time chopping wood... stop mowing 14 acres of lawn... raise chickens and sheep (takes care of the lawn issue).

And your wife will make crocheted hats for the kids whose b-day parties you attend.

Don't worry - you'll be fine.

:D
 
X3pilot

X3pilot

Texans fan - LOL
Aug 13, 2007
5,860
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stosh said:
HOw the F' did you pay a house off that you bought in 2005?
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Large $$ partly from sale of house in New Orleans that had been paid off for several years. The rest is due to the fact we are debt free and just paid off the little we had to finance with balls to the walls payments.

We (wife and I) developed a plan 16 years ago to become debt free. It worked.
 
gsweet

gsweet

Monkey
Dec 20, 2001
733
4
Minnesota
ok, i think we just need a good scapegoat here.

big financial and economic crisis = the usual whipping boy (the jews)?
 
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blue

boob hater
Jan 24, 2004
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gsweet said:
ok, i think we just need a good scapegoat here.

big financial and economic crisis = the usual whipping boy (the jews)?
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The Jews is so 20th Century...I'm thinking Latinos might be a better choice this time around. Maybe the Muslims?
 
rockwool

rockwool

Turbo Monkey
Apr 19, 2004
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Filastin
SkaredShtles said:
That's what this whole bailout is all about! Sharing the wealth!

:rolleyes:
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But that's not capitalist, how will Curtix ever live with him self if he knows that I and my socialist buddies pamper his proud 'independent' ass at his age?

blue said:
Fvck corporate welfare, let 'em burn. This country will be far better off after an economic catastrophe.
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Butbutbut, then I get to pay...
 
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curtix

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If this is how you all are here, and it is ok to attack and or make fun of Jews and or Muslims then you won't have to deal with me much longer.
 
ohio

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
24
SF, CA
SkaredShtles said:
I think we can.

And should.

YMMV.
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I fundamentally agree with all of you. If you look at my posts several months ago, I was saying that we should enforce existing bankruptcy laws and and let the market correct itself according the rules folks were playing by when they valued all of this junk debt.

However, the problem is that it does not just hit the banks and people involved. Responsible people at companies completely unrelated to banking, construction, and development will lose their jobs, will be unable to get financing for their car, will be unable to obtain a credit card.

Contrary to the term bailout, we are NOT giving this money away. We are purchasing an asset, and we are purchasing it at a market price (reverse auction), because the taxpayers are the only ones that could outlay enough cash at this moment to do so. Bad lenders will still go bankrupt. Badly financed homes will still go into foreclosure. The ****ups will be punished, economically. What we are trying to do is the minimum necessary to protect the innocent. It's unfortunate that a small number of the guilty will sneak in there as well, but it's not like we're just handing money from good people to bad people.
 
ohio

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
24
SF, CA
curtix said:
If this is how you all are here, and it is ok to attack and or make fun of Jews and or Muslims then you won't have to deal with me much longer.
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While I'd love to lose you, you should know that heavy-handed parody is a common humor tactic in this forum. Many of the loudest "anti-Semites" are, in fact, Jewish (me, for example) and we crack ourselves up endlessly with this ****. It's like Dave Chappelle in white-face.
 
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curtix

Guest
ohio said:
While I'd love to lose you, you should know that heavy-handed parody is a common humor tactic in this forum. Many of the loudest "anti-Semites" are, in fact, Jewish (me, for example) and we crack ourselves up endlessly with this ****. It's like Dave Chappelle in white-face.
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Just because someone from some ethnic or religious group isn't bothered and pokes fun at themselves does not make it ok by all.
Understand that.
 
gsweet

gsweet

Monkey
Dec 20, 2001
733
4
Minnesota
curtix said:
Just because someone from some ethnic or religious group isn't bothered and pokes fun at themselves does not make it ok by all.
Understand that.
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hey bro, relax. i am jewish; born and raised. self deprecation is necessary to survival in this day and age, as is being able to recognize it. i in no way feel that any individual group of people (be they defined by ethnicity, religion, political conviction, etc) are solely responsible for the current mess, but mocking a fairly strong contingent of ignorant, racist individuals in this country makes me feel better. if i offended you in any way, i apologize, but everything i say on this board involving lines of open racism/antisemitism is purely tongue-in-cheek.

man, where is opie when you need him...
 
narlus

narlus

Eastcoast Softcore
Staff member
Nov 7, 2001
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i worked w/ a scot once who flew over to the US for a short project...he didn't understand the concept of tipping re: meals.

'i'll give ye a tip...don't wipe yer arse with a broken bottle!'
 
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