12° ftw, u guys are missing out
Bar sweep vs. roll
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And to make up for the reach reduction you get to dust off a purple Tranz X 100mm stem that hasn't seen daylight since the 90s, awesome!
I ran 12 degree bars after having thumb surgery. Did put a 70mm stem on it. Thumbs are still fucked but I can get away with 9 degree bars and Ergon grips today.
Shit starts getting really flexy when you've got more than about 25 mm of those things under the stem... which I do on a whole lot of modern bikes, even with taller bars than that 12mm rise Thomson.oh man, wait til you find out about
add 150mm travel, increase the wheel diameter by 3”, make the stem a zero rise, but add 2” of bar height, and I guess it all equals out.
@HAB
Steerer tube are pretty thin and light these days... the straight tube on my 2009 36 looks like it's double as thick as anything I came across lately!
Have you tried to swap the original steerer tube for a reinforced one like NDtuned has. The stiffest is the E-Bike Steerer Tube
https://ndtuned.com/en/produtos/tubos-direccao
Or, in the same vibe, Intend has a Stiffler steer tube that is much thicker than what is usually found on RS or Fox forks.
www.intend-bc.com
Last option, controversial to some degree, would be to use one of these forks where both stanchions extend to the bar so that you can put an extra plate on top where a so called direct mount stem will fit nicely. The later stem is wider than traditional stems and will therefore improve overall stiffness of the front end noticeably!
Steerer tube are pretty thin and light these days... the straight tube on my 2009 36 looks like it's double as thick as anything I came across lately!
Have you tried to swap the original steerer tube for a reinforced one like NDtuned has. The stiffest is the E-Bike Steerer Tube
https://ndtuned.com/en/produtos/tubos-direccao
Or, in the same vibe, Intend has a Stiffler steer tube that is much thicker than what is usually found on RS or Fox forks.
Stiffler - Intend
www.intend-bc.com
Last option, controversial to some degree, would be to use one of these forks where both stanchions extend to the bar so that you can put an extra plate on top where a so called direct mount stem will fit nicely. The later stem is wider than traditional stems and will therefore improve overall stiffness of the front end noticeably!
yeah no one could possibly notice that longer frames and wider bars keep people from getting over the back wheel these days, locked in maximum fanny pack presentation mode....signaling to potential mates in search of the perfect vanlife influencer partnership
I dont think Ive ever had a size small frame in my life, but Ive definitely stacked up some bars and spacers. Kind of mandatory where you guys live, if you dare to leave the wholesome confines of duthie hill
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I ride mine in a particular spot for the first ride feel wrists and adjust roll to natural sweep of hands to main position on that bike...wrist, palm, and pinky tell me where I need mine...
All personal no science..
Until recently all bikes have been small for me the new ones I adjusted a slight different for how far back it put me on the reach...
All personal no science..
Until recently all bikes have been small for me the new ones I adjusted a slight different for how far back it put me on the reach...
I wonder if he'd make me a 1.5" steerer?@HAB
Steerer tube are pretty thin and light these days... the straight tube on my 2009 36 looks like it's double as thick as anything I came across lately!
Have you tried to swap the original steerer tube for a reinforced one like NDtuned has. The stiffest is the E-Bike Steerer Tube
https://ndtuned.com/en/produtos/tubos-direccao
Or, in the same vibe, Intend has a Stiffler steer tube that is much thicker than what is usually found on RS or Fox forks.
Stiffler - Intend
Last option, controversial to some degree, would be to use one of these forks where both stanchions extend to the bar so that you can put an extra plate on top where a so called direct mount stem will fit nicely. The later stem is wider than traditional stems and will therefore improve overall stiffness of the front end noticeably!
I know it saves a bee's dick in weight making it tapered, but having a 35mm handlebar and a 28.6mm steerer tube seems all sorts of dumb. Yes, I know that OD isn't the final word in strength and stiffness but I don't care about weight so it could be a thick walled 1.5" tube.
No, I don't want to run a dual crown fork at 120mm, I just want a fucking 1.5" steerer so when ol' fatty here mashes the pedals the bar doesn't lift what feels like an inch on one side.
Doesn't matter as much with my current Tor frame as the front triangle twists so much under power.
I feel like the width of the stem clamp makes a big difference here.
I have a DMR Defy 35 and it is the most noodly stem I own, it is also the widest.
But the flex is because of stupid design behind the bar clamp.
My previous combo of Profile Helm and an Antidote 35mm bar was brutally stiff, it was awesome. The current Beast Components 35mm bar has a bit more flex but it was the only 35mm rise bar I could find with the sweep I wanted.
But with my current frame the frame twists before the bar deflects too much so it's a non issue.
The antidote bar is still my fav ever bar.
Sorry, sometimes I forgot that the monkeys are not just about DH and freeride
My XC rig is a Sultan Turner lower to 110-ish mm of rear travel with a 34 at the front and kind of lightweight wheels. It is noticeably flexy and I love the way it flexes for its purpose. The compliance of each part seems to match the rest of the build in an harmonious and lucky way.
For stems, buy 3D forged 7-serie aluminium for maximum stiffness, whatever models fits your wallet and esthetic criteria. Syntace megaforce stems are very nice if you ask me.
From my perspective, lowrisers with 9° backsweep and 5° upsweep was the industry default, but i was pleasantly surprised with the 7° backsweep of the renthals, and my giant reign had a bar with 5°... but that felt excessive.
The lower angles really force your elbows behind the grip, opening the chest muscles, ready to absorbe some impacts... maybe even while biking.
Also ordered an integrated downcountry handlebar from Ali™ . It had some weird technical drawing. When the headtube angle is added, I'm guessing the angles will be close to 7/8 back and 3/4 up.
The lower angles really force your elbows behind the grip, opening the chest muscles, ready to absorbe some impacts... maybe even while biking.
Also ordered an integrated downcountry handlebar from Ali™ . It had some weird technical drawing. When the headtube angle is added, I'm guessing the angles will be close to 7/8 back and 3/4 up.
Indeed! I got a PRO on my trail bike
It'll just see some local duty on flat trails in the back yard. No way i would use it for any serious trails, I'm mostly curious how it would feel. Maybe also a bit for the look
Whenever I read this thread title, this song pops into my head. Why the fuck - tell me I'm not the only one.
The Profile Helm stems are badass! I've been running Chromag Ranger, DMR Defy, and Profile Helm stems for years now. I haven't had any issues with any of them although the bolts in my Helm stem get all corroded and need replacement. I hear about people having slippage with the DMR stems but haven't experienced it. I guess I'd rather my stem slip than something give way during a wreck.
The Profile Helm stems are badass! I've been running Chromag Ranger, DMR Defy, and Profile Helm stems for years now. I haven't had any issues with any of them although the bolts in my Helm stem get all corroded and need replacement. I hear about people having slippage with the DMR stems but haven't experienced it. I guess I'd rather my stem slip than something give way during a wreck.
Look up Profile Designs mtb bars, it gets even better.
was a while ago...
He fucked himself up again descending a road on a charity ride in 2021... Headlines at the time said "catastrophic accident" but you'll be disappointed to hear reports exaggerated hugely.
Profile racing = a company founded in the late 70s producing high quality BMX racing parts and the odd gravity mtb product
Profile designs = a different company founded in the late 80s focusing on road and Time trial parts and the odd XC mtb product
Profile designs = a different company founded in the late 80s focusing on road and Time trial parts and the odd XC mtb product
I still love Profile cranks. I always wanted a set of those or the Redline Flights back when I was a BMX grom.