***** Barry Bonds: Finally *****
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He is screwed. The Feds have something like a 92% conviction rate, and I doubt they'd want to risk losing such a high profile case like this. I'm guessing they feel that have a slam dunk case.
I love how the courts have nothing better to do than go after bonehead baseball players for taking steroids. Go America.
Well, what would you have them do instead? Go after a lying President who sends a country to war on made-up excuses?
PAWN hall of fame post.
I noticed he changed his story from "I haven't knowingly..." to "I have never...".
I think he is trying to will himself clean.
I think he is trying to will himself clean.
Somehow I'm thinking the whole thing about an asterisk on the ball is looking pretty insignificant to ol' Barry right now.
But he will probably plea bargain something decent. One reason the feds have a 92% conviction rate is because they let everyone plead their felonies down to minor traffic infractions.
It's actually quite simple. The Fed is establishing a precedent for future athletes who are caught up in roids and PEDs. Giambi and Sheff got good legal advice and owned up to their mistakes. Barry, for a myraid of reasons, chose not to be candid and he will be made an example of. The precedent the Fed would like to make: you lie to us, we will fvck you.
Who cares? It's steroids. There is more than a few dramatically more important things to deal with than an overpaid baby's quest to shrink his testicles. Also, it's baseball. Nobody cares.
I guess it's a good thing OJ never took steroids, or he'd have been in REAL trouble......
They should focus their attention on cracking down on the use of short pants by midgets.
I'm with Transcend...like Barry is the only one on steroids...really the feds should be following up on things that actually matter...D
You're incredibly shortsighted that I'm amazed you can see the keyboard.
It's not just about pros, but kids taking 'roids thinking it's necessary to compete.
Wow, again, someone who doesn't pay enough attention to know what's going on
It's not about 'roids in this case, but lying to a grand jury.
It's Lewinski-esqueWow, again, someone who doesn't pay enough attention to know what's going on
It's not about 'roids in this case, but lying to a grand jury.
yeah that's exactly what it's about....are you serious...D
No it's not, it's about a government again wasting vast amounts of resources on a completely pointless event. Professional sports should all but be ignored by the government. Again, it's a case of big business and the government being in bed together.
They are never going to stop steroid use in sports. end of story. It sure as hell isn't up to the Government to try and clean up sports leagues making trillions of dollars a year in profit with marketing and exhorbinant salaries as their only expense.
He lied during an investigation not about athletes using steroids but an investigation into Balco which was doing a bunch of illegal drug manufacturing. A very big deal. Bonds may have been called into the Grand jury because of his celebrity status in the first place but after that it was all on him. Lying to the feds will always get you into hot water.
But why were the feds involved in the first place?
"Seriously Derek, I just told you why they use male models."
BALCO was designing steroids that were not detectable by drug tests. First their is some marginal legal issues with giving steroids to athletes in the first place but there is also the issue of creating drugs and not going through the FDA approval process. This would be like a company selling a new blood pressure drug with no approval through the normal government channels.
Should the US Government also give up on trying to stop (or at least minimize) the illegal drug trade in the US? They will never succeed, it's a battle they can't win, but that certainly doesn't mean that they should give up.
Steroids, as such, aren't illegal. They are only illegal to possess with a prescription.
Seriously, waste of government time and resources. It's professional sports. I'm pretty sure the US has more important things to deal with at the present time.
Illegal wiretaps, racial profiling, no health care, horrible public education, illegal invasions of sovereign nations, the south running out of water and half of the west coast on fire.
And yet...Westy's point still stands.
Phucking Canadians shouldn't be allowed to post in this thread.
minor point but he isn't in trouble for using steroids but lying to a grand jury investigating balco about his use of steroids. If he had told the truth he would have lost his career, but would be Scott free of legal entanglements.
Lying to a grand jury serious and he's facing thirty years behind bars. Even with a plea bargin I don't see him getting less than five.
NPR was kind of enough to point out that this SHOULD have been the front page story, but has been drowned out by all the excitement over some bat-swinging douche with a needle (their words, not mine):
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/13/earlyshow/main3494261.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/13/earlyshow/main3494261.shtml
In a five finger forehead kind of way.
Yes. Legalize the whole deal. Everything. Crack, heroin, meth. The same tweakers and junkies who get it now will still be able to get it. The only difference is that the massive costs associated with the "War on Drugs" and the constitutional liberties that have been taken because of it may be somewhat reversed.
You know, I read that story and think to myself, "Those guys obviously should have prayed more."
At least they are with Jesus now...
But we're winning.
There has also been an alarming increase in the percentage of people getting kicked out of the military for "personality defects" which in a person who has seen combat is most likely PTSD. Getting nailed with the personality defect apparently gets you a dishonorable discharge with no benefits.
now that's something to focus on...not some ball player...D
Cue CUNT (Crusty Uptight Neo-Thatcherite) mode,
"Look here young chap, drugs are bad because they're illegal and they're illegal because they're bad...now where's my whiskey...."