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before & after: animal rights to privacy

$tinkle

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Do Nature Films Deny Animals Their Right to Privacy?
Imagine if a film crew, without your permission, stormed into your home and filmed you in your most private moments. Makers of wildlife documentaries do just that to non-human animals, and are denying these animals their right to privacy, according to new research published in the current issue of Continuum: Journal of Media and Cultural Studies.

(Tortoises mating. Zoos might also deny animals their right to privacy, since they force animals to do in public what they might otherwise do in private. Wikimedia Commons image)

Animals obviously cannot sign release forms, but Brett Mills from the University of East Anglia still argues that animals have a right to privacy, which he acknowledges is a challenge for production teams.

“The aim of (my) research is to encourage debate, especially within the contemporary environmental context where it is now commonplace for us to question the impact of human movement and behavior around the globe,” explained Mills, a senior lecturer in the School of Film and Television Studies. “In addition, though, perhaps there is an argument for some species, in some circumstances, not to be filmed. At the moment it seems that such arguments are never put forward.”
anticipating the usual ":picsstfu:":



now i want some in-n-out, animal style
 

BurlyShirley

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Jul 4, 2002
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Ok, if we're going that far into the realm of anthropomorphizing, let's just say that if animals want privacy, animals need to get a f*cking room.

Im pretty sure you're not violating anyone's right to privacy if you film them screwing in central park, maybe the lions ought to find a nice den instead of dropping trow in the middle of the serenghetti. Oh wait.. they don't drop trow, because they're naked all the time. Sounds like they don't mind others looking at their naughty parts to me.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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do fish have an o-face?

and if animals have a right to privacy, is there also the concept of rape?

and when dogs lick ea others' junk, is that oral or just being considerate ("here, you got some schmutz on your bag...nom, nom, nom....all better!")
 

stoney

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Can I just point out that this is the same university that is at the middle of the climate change debate for their handling of data.
Not at all a psycho liberal school, not at all...
 

$tinkle

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Can I just point out that this is the same university that is at the middle of the climate change debate for their handling of data.
Not at all a psycho liberal school, not at all...
i first considered making note of this: “The aim of (my) research is to encourage debate...", but that would have distracted from the vastly more important issue of animal husbandry
 

Silver

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Jul 20, 2002
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Can I just point out that this is the same university that is at the middle of the climate change debate for their handling of data.
Not at all a psycho liberal school, not at all...
Because this guy:

http://www.uea.ac.uk/ftv/People/Academic/Brett+Mills

is obviously in charge of the climate sciences department at that University.

Does being a pseudo-libertarian make you stupid, or do you have to be stupid going in? It's a real chicken and egg situation, from what I can see.
 

X3pilot

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I'm all in favor of animal's right to privacy. This cow will never be the same after meeting Tom Green:

 

stoney

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Because this guy:

http://www.uea.ac.uk/ftv/People/Academic/Brett+Mills

is obviously in charge of the climate sciences department at that University.

Does being a pseudo-libertarian make you stupid, or do you have to be stupid going in? It's a real chicken and egg situation, from what I can see.
No, but it's a culture. If this guy is bat **** crazy enough to believe this AND be a professor there, what else is going on behind the scenes?
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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No, but it's a culture. If this guy is bat **** crazy enough to believe this AND be a professor there, what else is going on behind the scenes?
You're demonstrating that a culture of stupidity is strong in the finance world. Let's write that off too, shall we?

What's stupidity? Repeating talking points after you should have read this: http://www.desmogblog.com/phil-jones-exonerated-british-house-commons, or this: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10332
 
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stoney

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You're demonstrating that a culture of stupidity is strong in the finance world. Let's write that off too, shall we?

What's stupidity? Repeating talking points after you should have read this: http://www.desmogblog.com/phil-jones-exonerated-british-house-commons, or this: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10332
Both are about the exoneration of the professor by British HoC, equivalent to our HoR. You know how little I actually trust govt, namely because they are the ones really pushing the high-cost bills through govt. The current carbon bill is a taxation scheme more than anything else, imho. It provides loop holes for the major polluters to buy credits from clean companies that were given more credits than needed. But not to worry, there will be a market created for the carbon, and the govt can get their cap gains and transaction taxes in. Oh, and GS can get their spread. You can't forget about creating a way for the TBTF to get a slice...