[kickstand]

Sounds pretty crazy, clearly your wife is the real MVP.
It looks like the Havoc is about the widest you can get so maybe a contributor, but it's not that much wider than the others really so maybe just unlucky crashes.

I decided the ANVL was still the best of the bunch for me and emailed them a few questions before ordering, but no reply after 7 days. Re-sent this morning, will see how it goes.

both events were in the exact same section of trail, which really seemed to eat her up, both were over the bars, wheel turned, all weight coming down on the one side of the bars, more likely to two really similar unfortunate crashes than any concern over the stem being the problem.

So, another Easton, Raceface, or a different bar this time around?

 

[slimshady]

So, another Easton, Raceface, or a different bar this time around?

Kore Torsion is the obviuos answer. RM approved n' shit.

 

[kickstand]

I ran Kore's in the past and have no complaints, but I'm not sure if they will hold up to my wife's "style" of riding

Then again, not sure any bar is going to hold up lol

 

[Udi]

So, another Easton, Raceface, or a different bar this time around?

Had a SIXC on my trailbike for a while, and I want to try the same on the DH but need 800 width and high rise (which RF only make in 35 clamp) hence the need for a 35 stem. Not sure if plastic is the smartest idea, but a few bigger/faster guys I know have been running them on DH bikes for a while now, so I'm ready to give it a go.

Been using a Nukeproof alloy bar happily for three years (7075, 300g@800mm, 38mm rise and 31.8 clamp), plus they're super cheap and the logos alcohol-off for that all black look. I've found most 7075 alloy bars (which is most of the good ones anyway) to be pretty reliable in general.

 

[kickstand]

I thought about carbon, I'm pretty impressed with the impact resistance of our frames. I think carbon might actually be a good option if it wasn't 2-3 times the cost.

 

[kidwoo]

I thought about carbon, I'm pretty impressed with the impact resistance of our frames. I think carbon might actually be a good option if it wasn't 2-3 times the cost.

Carbon's pretty rad. Definitely doesn't bend like stupid aluminum stems or bars.

 

[4130biker]

Thank god those didn't bend!

 

[slimshady]

Carbon's pretty rad. Definitely doesn't bend like stupid aluminum stems or bars.

But would them blend?

 

[jstuhlman]

Carbon's pretty rad. Definitely doesn't bend like stupid aluminum stems or bars.

well that's just because vpp. DUH.





















(or maybe don't blow your load all over your broken v10?)

 

[kickstand]

Carbon's pretty rad. Definitely doesn't bend like stupid aluminum stems or bars.




[\QUOTE]
to be honest, I still can't figure out how she's bending these, I can't imagine she could snap a set. Carbons still not happening.

 

[kidwoo]

to be honest, I still can't figure out how she's bending these, I can't imagine she could snap a set. Carbons still not happening.

Well I think that's a little short sighted. I'm trying to get you realized how justified the cost is. That stem is like 16GRAMS lighter than a comparable aluminum one.

 

[kickstand]

Well I think that's a little short sighted. I'm trying to get you realized how justified the cost is. That stem is like 16GRAMS lighter than a comparable aluminum one.

Oh , well if it's that much lighter!! Crabonz it iz

 

[toodles]

Well I think that's a little short sighted. I'm trying to get you realized how justified the cost is. That stem is like 16GRAMS lighter than a comparable aluminum one.

Over here that's a $450 stem. Can't even leave it in the sun....

 

[Westy]

Over here that's a $450 stem. Can't even leave it in the sun....

Sure you can, with a 85 gram aluminum stem cover. 7000 series of course.

 

[kidwoo]

Over here that's a $450 stem. Can't even leave it in the sun....

Nah man, the cap is metal.


Just point your bike up.


It's $325 here. Now that's some value. I'll send you a dozen.

 

[norbar]

"wife beaters?"

Sweet. I'd totally trust a 100g stem from those guys. The only stem I've ever seen truly broken (as in separated bar) is an enve stem, but I'd bet that's a good candidate just based on their website.

They're in poland, so @norbar needs to step up and explain

Will ask, I assume they are the component brand for Antidote bikes given they sponsor the same riders and they use the same social media guy.

 

[Udi]

Well it's been over a week now and ANVL are flat out ignoring my emails (edit - maybe crankworx? still not impressed). Got a shipping quote but they haven't replied to anything else, and I've re-sent the emails a few times.

Since I can't actually order from them without some sort of communication (due to international shipping $ they have to enter in manually) I'm probably going to wait one more day and then give it a miss.

Failing that, it looks like I'll be getting a 2014 stem after all. Think I'll go with the RF one to match the bar if there are no objections.

So why not the Race Face DM35 one? Claimed weight is ~120g, the clamping surface seems decent, and it's made of 2014 aluminium. Not your 7075 of choice, but neither the cottage cheese 6061.

It was always my 2nd choice and looks like it may happen. I hate the graphics but the stem seems nice.

 

[troy]

What about that Syncros stem? Have You asked them about that alloy, that it's made of?

 

[toodles]

What about that Syncros stem? Have You asked them about that alloy, that it's made of?

Don't know about the material, but its getting up there in weight compared to some of the other offerings. 155g without crown bolts.

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/13584284/

 

[Udi]

@toodles nailed it.

The ANVL shipping guy just replied to me and apologised for the delay and said he'll give the owners a kick to reply. Guess these things happen, I'd still like to try one if it will work out.

 

[CraigS]

------Resurrection-----

How is the ANVL?

I'm looking for something similar but for a 31.8 bar.

Suggestions?

 

[kickstand]

My ANVL bar and stem are still kicking. 3 or so more weekends on it since this thread was started, 2 more races planned for the season (Snowshoe and Platty). I just said to the wife yesterday that after 3 seasons it may be time to relegate my current bar to "spare parts" duty. It's got some cosmetic scratches, but some are deep enough for me to second guess if I should still run the bars.

I'll likely buy another ANVL bar. Stem shows no signs of wear or need of replacement.

 

[CraigS]

Too bad ANVL doesn't make a direct mount stem for 31.8 bars.
I need a new stem.

 

[kickstand]

Too bad ANVL doesn't make a direct mount stem for 31.8 bars.
I need a new stem.

Well yeah, than that's not gonna be an option for you.

I've had transition, kore, and loaded 31.8's recently and no complaints with any of those guys

 

[Flo33]

Did you bang already @Udi ? Deity is up to something: http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/INTERBIKE-2017-Mountain-Bike-Components,10498/2017-Deity-Components-at-Interbike,110168/iceman2058,94

 

[Udi]

Did you bang already @Udi?

Yeah, didn't have time to update the thread.
Thanks to @Kanye West / hacktastic for helping me get one.

Weighed with 6x Ti bolts (faceplate and crown):

I'm looking for something similar but for a 31.8 bar.
Suggestions?

The best 31.8mm DM stem (bar none, in my book) is the Point1 splitsecond.
Unfortunately it's long out of production and the company is dissolved, but they pop up on PB buysell occasionally. If you want something currently available the Hope one is pretty nice, and Nukeproof do a nice 7075 one (not sure if it comes in 50mm though).

 

[toodles]

The best 31.8mm DM stem (bar none, in my book) is the Point1 splitsecond.
Unfortunately it's long out of production and the company is dissolved, but they pop up on PB buysell occasionally. If you want something currently available the Hope one is pretty nice, and Nukeproof do a nice 7075 one (not sure if it comes in 50mm though).

This.

Ran the Point1 for something like 7 or 8 years on about 6 different bikes and it is just brilliant. After recently cracking a Thomson X4 (also 8 years old) on the trail bike, I got concerned about the possibility of fatigue and replaced the Point1 with the Hope. Really nicely made but quite a bit heavier than the Point1. I think it would benefit from ti bolts as it runs huge stainless bolts (4 of M6 x 18 and 4 of M6 x 25). If you're not worried about weight tho just run it stock. The best price I could find was Ubyk.

 

[CraigS]

Yeah, didn't have time to update the thread.
Thanks to @Kanye West / hacktastic for helping me get one.

Weighed with 6x Ti bolts (faceplate and crown):

The best 31.8mm DM stem (bar none, in my book) is the Point1 splitsecond.
Unfortunately it's long out of production and the company is dissolved, but they pop up on PB buysell occasionally. If you want something currently available the Hope one is pretty nice, and Nukeproof do a nice 7075 one (not sure if it comes in 50mm though).

Thanks Udi.
Do you happen to know the material of the Point1 splitsecond?

 

[Udi]

Thanks Udi.
Do you happen to know the material of the Point1 splitsecond?

I'm almost positive it's 7075T6 (would have checked when I first bought it), but it's hard to find their official documentation now.

In any case, I can say with reasonable confidence that breakage is not going to be a big concern on that stem - I took a gamble on it when it first came out in early 2008, and ran it for a full 8 1/2 years. Numerous others I know have run them for ages too (eg. post above).

It's also lighter than this one I just bought (and has higher quality machining), about 110g with all Ti hardware (4x M5 + 4x M6). I ran mine L/R flipped for the last 3-4 years I owned it to get a wider clamping stance and had no problems (as did a few other people I know). Company's official stance on it was "it's probably fine but we can't tell you that for sure").

 

[iRider]

What about the Syntace F44 for a 31.8 stem?
http://www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=3&pk=3710
Their stuff is normally rigorously tested and their stems/handlebars/seatposts seem to be pretty durable for how light they are.

 

[CraigS]

I'm almost positive it's 7075T6 (would have checked when I first bought it), but it's hard to find their official documentation now.

In any case, I can say with reasonable confidence that breakage is not going to be a big concern on that stem - I took a gamble on it when it first came out in early 2008, and ran it for a full 8 1/2 years. Numerous others I know have run them for ages too (eg. post above).

It's also lighter than this one I just bought (and has higher quality machining), about 110g with all Ti hardware (4x M5 + 4x M6). I ran mine L/R flipped for the last 3-4 years I owned it to get a wider clamping stance and had no problems (as did a few other people I know). Company's official stance on it was "it's probably fine but we can't tell you that for sure").

Thanks guys.

I currently have a Sunline direct mount that recently took a shot and may be slightly bent.
I'll look into your options.

 

[CraigS]

Yeah, didn't have time to update the thread.
Thanks to @Kanye West / hacktastic for helping me get one.

Weighed with 6x Ti bolts (faceplate and crown):

The best 31.8mm DM stem (bar none, in my book) is the Point1 splitsecond.
Unfortunately it's long out of production and the company is dissolved, but they pop up on PB buysell occasionally. If you want something currently available the Hope one is pretty nice, and Nukeproof do a nice 7075 one (not sure if it comes in 50mm though).

Found a used Point1 Splitsecond stem. Its a nice piece.
Still in fashion with the current offerings. (ahead of its time)
Looking forward to mounting it up. I have some black Ti bolts that will sharpen the look.

 

[HAB]

What about the Syntace F44 for a 31.8 stem?
http://www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=3&pk=3710
Their stuff is normally rigorously tested and their stems/handlebars/seatposts seem to be pretty durable for how light they are.

Can confirm that the F44 is excellent.