mRNA vaccine technology moves to flu: Moderna says trial has begun
Moderna aims for one seasonal shot for flu, COVID-19, respiratory viruses RSV and HMPV.
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Beyond the pandemic
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let's see where this spinoff goes.
This always reminds me of Chris Rock saying they are still angry they cured polio
tangentially related, but i work for a fortune 50 company, they are shifting company wide to a model where we only have to be on-site 3 days a week.
I'd like to see a vaccine for Lyme disease and EEE. Those are both low-risk, area related viruses that there hasn't been a ton of development on...but what if we could just not worry about them????
i just picked a tick off my leg that was there for at least 2 days. i should probably go get tested.
MRNA vaccines are pretty cool tech, potentially ending HIV would be pretty damn impressive and a massive cost savings for healthcare providers globally, plus you know, that whole saving lives nonsense.
Polio was a cash cow, just like covid has been. Applying MRNA tech to HIV would also be shooting yourself in the foot financially, but they're doing it.
Another conspiracy theory I'll never understand is that somehow big Pharma caused all of this in order to sell us vaccines for billions and billions. The vaccines are cheap, medical care is not, so wouldn't they be working against their own self interests by developing the vaccine? I received about $40 worth of Pfizer sauce according to this https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-eyes-higher-covid-19-vaccine-prices-after-pandemic-exec-analyst, I can't imagine they wouldn't make a few more bucks if I were even mildly sick instead. Post pandemic prices may go up, but still, they're not exactly killing it on vaccines.
Polio was a cash cow, just like covid has been. Applying MRNA tech to HIV would also be shooting yourself in the foot financially, but they're doing it.
I'm just posting in this thread so that I can speculate about how premature the phrase "beyond the pandemic" is. All this talk about the "delta variant"? Just wait till science denying, heavily republican voting districts bring us the Zeta variant!
I would expect, at this point, that it'll be like influenza. Yes, there will be variants, yes, they will be more or less virulent, yes, it'll be routine annual vaccines.
And slowly... the non-vaccinated will realize that it's not all that they thought it was (hoax, money-grab, liberal conspiracy, etc.) and get vaccinated. Or, conversely, they'll stick to their guns and die.
Lyme is caused by the bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi and not a virus.
There are quite a few bacterial vaccines: https://www.drugs.com/drug-class/bacterial-vaccines.htmlLyme is caused by the bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi and not a virus.
Also
Lyme disease vaccine | CDC
Information about the previous Lyme disease vaccine and products under development.
I know, and there had been a vaccine against Borrelia burgdorferi already:There are quite a few bacterial vaccines: https://www.drugs.com/drug-class/bacterial-vaccines.html
Also
Vaccines against Lyme Disease: What Happened and What Lessons Can We Learn?
Abstract. This article reviews events that led to the withdrawal of the only vaccine to prevent Lyme disease licensed in the United States. The primary iss
academic.oup.com
Edit: sniped by Westy.
yeah, not enough demand apparently, so it died. my understanding is mrna vaccines are quicker, easier, and cheaper to produce....so it would be kind of need to add that to TDAP and not worry about it.Lyme disease vaccine | CDC
Information about the previous Lyme disease vaccine and products under development.www.cdc.gov
does MRNA not work against bacteria borne diseases?
taxonomically speaking, bacteria is its own kingdom. viruses are a separate realm. i learned this from a quick google, and holy moly could you fall down a rabbit hole trying to learn about this stuff.
So I won't be an expert with 10 minutes of reading memes on the bookface account I don't have??
depends, did you stay at a holiday inn last night?
I believe it also depends on whether you wear a MAGA hat or not...
like, duh or whatever
mRNA vaccines — a new era in vaccinology - Nature Reviews Drug Discovery
mRNA vaccines represent a promising alternative to conventional vaccine approaches, but their application has been hampered by instability and delivery issues. Here, Pardi and colleagues discuss recent advances in mRNA vaccine technology, assess mRNA vaccines currently in development for cancer...
www.nature.com
so thanks for the science lesson gang, telling the biologist that bacteria and viruses are different, but I thought (and just confirmed) that mRNA vaccines can be used for bacteria. It was just a matter of doing it.
like, duh or whatever
mRNA vaccines — a new era in vaccinology - Nature Reviews Drug Discovery
mRNA vaccines represent a promising alternative to conventional vaccine approaches, but their application has been hampered by instability and delivery issues. Here, Pardi and colleagues discuss recent advances in mRNA vaccine technology, assess mRNA vaccines currently in development for cancer...
so thanks for the science lesson gang, telling the biologist that bacteria and viruses are different, but I thought (and just confirmed) that mRNA vaccines can be used for bacteria. It was just a matter of doing it.
As a biologist you should know that Lyme is not caused by a virus.
And yes, the mRNA vaccine technology works for all kinds of targets. Initially it was developed to be able to vaccinate against cancer.
@jonKranked : Bacteria is a domain and not a kingdom! Kingdom is not used in taxonomy anymore if you are serious about it.
I'd wager they're going to revise how they transfer their packets
Viruses are not living entities.
Change my mind.
Change my mind.
A vaccine is going to protect you from bacteria?
Edit: Oh crap, that's what I get for clicking on this thread late.
It of course depends on how you define life. If you assume life must directly consume energy and self replicate, then nope not alive. However you can consider them players in the game of life, where the game is to have a genetic code and reproduce such coding as much as possible, in that aspect they are very successful players of the game.
And slowly... the non-vaccinated will realize that it's not all that they thought it was (hoax, money-grab, liberal conspiracy, etc.) and get vaccinated. Or, conversely, they'll stick to their guns and die.
One can hope for the latter....Covid 19 variants: Clorox for the gene pool of the stupid republicans...
Characteristics of Life - Advanced ( Read ) | Biology
Covers seven characteristics shared by all living organisms.
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