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Bhutto not assasinated

firemandivi

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Sep 7, 2006
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Pakistan's interior ministry said Friday that Benazir Bhutto was killed after smashing her head on her car's sunroof while trying to duck, and that no bullet or shrapnel was found inside her.
Bullsh!t

The ministry also said it had intercepted a phone call from a top Al-Qaeda figure congratulating a militant for the attack
if they intercepted the phone call, they must have known about the attack beforehand

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071228/ts_afp/pakistanattacksbhuttoministry
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Because they could easily have been listening to a known AQ operative anyhow. Just because they overheard him congratulate the attack in NO WAY means the AQ guy (or the government) knew who was involved. It doesn't say he planned the attack...and even if he did, he might have done it in person, via coded messages, whatever.

The very cellular structure of AQ, in fact, argues for this.

This is the kind of reasoning that people use to justify their crackpot 9/11 theories, or how many Middle Easterners justify their belief that the Jews and America are behind everything bad that happens in the world.
 

jasride

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Sep 23, 2006
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The bomber also apparently fired three times at her but missed, Cheema said.

When she ducked, she hit the lever of the sunroof of the car that was to speed her away from a campaign rally as she was gearing up to contest parliamentary elections set for January 8.

"The lever struck near her right ear and fractured her skull," Cheema said. "There was no bullet or metal shrapnel found in the injury."


I would still call that an assasination.
 

LordOpie

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Oct 17, 2002
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Because they could easily have been listening to a known AQ operative anyhow. Just because they overheard him congratulate the attack in NO WAY means the AQ guy (or the government) knew who was involved. It doesn't say he planned the attack...and even if he did, he might have done it in person, via coded messages, whatever.

The very cellular structure of AQ, in fact, argues for this.

This is the kind of reasoning that people use to justify their crackpot 9/11 theories, or how many Middle Easterners justify their belief that the Jews and America are behind everything bad that happens in the world.
Except that the guy receiving the congrats is a top enemy of the state and has been involved in many such plots, so they must've been doing all they could to keep track of the guy.
 

MikeD

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Except that the guy receiving the congrats is a top enemy of the state and has been involved in many such plots, so they must've been doing all they could to keep track of the guy.
OK, but AQ operates by giving autonomy to cells to conduct operations, and eliminating chains-of-command and knowledge of specific ops. They go directly against the kind of organization that would give a financier knowledge of what a small cell was doing, and an operations commander potential knowledge of what a certain ops cell was doing. He might know that someone was planning to kill Bhutto at some point, but not known who, where, or when...

And as Dave points out, the fact they they were monitoring him doesn't mean he could've been involved in something they didn't catch on to...
 

firemandivi

They drank my Tooters
Sep 7, 2006
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OK, but AQ operates by giving autonomy to cells to conduct operations, and eliminating chains-of-command and knowledge of specific ops. They go directly against the kind of organization that would give a financier knowledge of what a small cell was doing, and an operations commander potential knowledge of what a certain ops cell was doing. He might know that someone was planning to kill Bhutto at some point, but not known who, where, or when...
And as Dave points out, the fact they they were monitoring him doesn't mean he could've been involved in something they didn't catch on to...
I'll agree with that reasoning. I know it will never happen but it would be interesting to know exactly what information the government had on this top enemy of the state.