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Biden Presidency 2021 - ?

rideit

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Thatd be crossing a line I think.
Rule of law and strong institutions with a balance of power is the recipe for a sustainable nation.
The only issue here is that they would knowingly be marched into helicopter blades, and not into any sort of truly legal accountability.
Trump has broken our systems.
 
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Changleen

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Jan 9, 2004
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The only issue here is that they would knowingly marched into helicopter blades, and not into any sort of truly legal accountability.
Trump has broken our systems.
They were already pretty broken. For the rich, rule of law, or immunity from it, depending on convenience, has been a thing for decades. We’ve been talking about instances of this since forever.
 

4xBoy

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Trump didn't break the system, he just showed what can be done in the system when you have no morals.

When a senator is getting 200k a year salary but has a net worth of hundreds of millions, nobody is in politics is clean.
 

4xBoy

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I think Jan. 6 sure displayed his intent.
True.

But some of his shit was always done in good faith, not required, i.e. showing tax returns, handling over power of businesses you own.

Whatever he is a shit bag like the rest.

He is just more blatant about it.
 

Jm_

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Trump didn't break the system, he just showed what can be done in the system when you have no morals.

When a senator is getting 200k a year salary but has a net worth of hundreds of millions, nobody is in politics is clean.
1. It takes money to run a campaign and get elected. It shouldn't...but it does. This is why we should have a rule that publicly funds them and LIMITS them.

2. Wealth is how you build more wealth. The issue isn't that they are worth a lot of money...the issue is that when you are worth a decent amount of money, you are more easily able to shelter, invest and use it in ways that poorer people simply cannot. This was a prime issue in how Trump was able to borrow so much money, by inflating values well above market to borrow against.

3. Corporations should not be people. Accountability should always be tied to people, not limited liability groups. There should be liability.
 

Brian HCM#1

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in your opinion, how much of that should come from cutting the nearly $900B defense budget, versus say, social security and medicaid, and other similar programs?
Can't cut the military budget and still need to keep social security & Medicare funded. There appears to be a lot of wasteful federal jobs in Washington that can be cut as well as special interest projects that should be eliminated. We all got fucked when the government started borrowing our SS funds which contributed to the debt. The government owes SS approx $3T. Last year $150B went to illegal immigration alone and we shouldn't be spending money for that. Congress needs term limits so they can't get too cozy with special interests groups. I think we all learned in school at one point if you make $100 a week, you don't spend $130 or you're going too be in up to your ass in debt before you know it. Both parties have screwed us! I'm hoping DOGE will show all of us what our government been doing to us for the last several decades.
 

Avy

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Jan 24, 2006
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The only issue here is that they would knowingly be marched into helicopter blades, and not into any sort of truly legal accountability.
Trump has broken our systems.
Our Systems were broken Long before Trump Brother.

Avy
 

Avy

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Jan 24, 2006
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True.

But some of his shit was always done in good faith, not required, i.e. showing tax returns, handling over power of businesses you own.

Whatever he is a shit bag like the rest.

He is just more blatant about it.
Yes Sir, Yes Sir.

Avy
 

Avy

Turbo Monkey
Jan 24, 2006
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1. It takes money to run a campaign and get elected. It shouldn't...but it does. This is why we should have a rule that publicly funds them and LIMITS them.

2. Wealth is how you build more wealth. The issue isn't that they are worth a lot of money...the issue is that when you are worth a decent amount of money, you are more easily able to shelter, invest and use it in ways that poorer people simply cannot. This was a prime issue in how Trump was able to borrow so much money, by inflating values well above market to borrow against.

3. Corporations should not be people. Accountability should always be tied to people, not limited liability groups. There should be liability.
Now you are Talkin Jm. Save for Trump on the borrow part. It matters not,All of your thought’s are exactly how I feel. Accountability Brother,something there is None Of in All Aspects and Matters in our Life.

Avy
 

Avy

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Jan 24, 2006
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They were already pretty broken. For the rich, rule of law, or immunity from it, depending on convenience, has been a thing for decades. We’ve been talking about instances of this since forever.
I gota say Changleen,Avy is going through some shit. I took a break from this section,to take a deep breath with all that is going on for me personally,nothing to say on this matter.

But I have to say,Only reading the Last 3 pages of this Topic,I am Proud,Fucking Proud of how All of You Monkeys are on a Proper Conversation about such an Insane Matter. I am fucking proud. I can see the difference Brother. Can you not?

Avy