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  1. $tinkle

    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    Religious police in Saudi Arabia arrest mother for sitting with a man
    another good take on it from foxnews

    normally, i'd want to bomb them back to the stone ages. but for these "men", i think up close & personal hand-to-hand combat is in order.

    pussies.
     
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  2. Kevin

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    If your gonna go into their country you gotta respect their rules.
     
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    Westy the teste

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    But a Starbucks should be sovereign US soil.
     
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    I think it would have to be a Starbucks Ambassy for that..
     
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    Seriously, but then you could argue that Exxon stations are sovereign Saudi or Iranian soil...we'd be screwed...dont get between a man and his coffee
     
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    You want to bomb them back to the future?
     
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    in just a short time, even that may not matter: "Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'"

    bold & brash you say? consider these events just this week:
    Hamas: We're Allowed to Lie (“A Muslim is permitted to say things that oppose his beliefs in order to prevent damages or to be saved from death.” )
    Wikipedia Islam Entry Is Criticized (“It’s totally unacceptable to print the Prophet’s picture,” Saadia Bukhari from Pakistan wrote in a message. “It shows insensitivity towards Muslim feelings and should be removed immediately.”)

    seems that for an ever-increasing number, when there's a conflict between religious rights & human rights, the former prevails.
     
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    and in iran, it's a 3-drink maximum: Iranian faces execution for drinking alcohol
    sure, let 'em have nukes. they seem like the type to respond to confrontation with temperance & reason.
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Praise Jesus.


    (he should claim to be a xtian)
     
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  10. $tinkle

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    sure drinks like one
     
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    Islam is the new Black Plague.
     
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    valve bouncer Master Dildoist

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    Quality journalism here. Which is it?
    That Armenian homebrew will knock you on your arse
     
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    She described herself as secular, and apolitical. "I am anti-political," she said. "I have never advocated for anything in my life."

    Ha!
     
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    DirtyDog Gang probed by the Golden Banana

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    Backwards as ****, no doubt. But we are the pussies that can't adjust are lifestyles enought to allow us the luxury of not associating with that culture.
     
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    JohnE filthy rascist

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    Tell that to the fuggers who come here and try to live the same way they lived in "the old country"...

    English as official language anyone?
     
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    Should that maybe not be Arapaho or Cherokee?
     
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    JohnE filthy rascist

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    In that I am part Cherokee, works for me...now all you white devils, get out. But leave your women. Except Britney Spears. And Hilary Clinton. And Jane Pauley.

    And whats so big about a picture of this guy anyway? Nice 'stache...
     
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    A fatwa on you, infidel!
     
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    I'm so glad that we in the Western coalition of the virtuous are doing all we can to reform that corrupt and evil Saudi regime. I'd feel terrible if we were propping them up in any way whatsoever. How could any leader live with such hypocrisy?
     
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    Trust me Im allways the first to tell m that, and I live in Holland...
    But if you go to a country thats ages behind on equality and values the West considers as standard, then you really shouldnt act surpised when they bust your ass if you break their "laws". Especially if your a woman.
     
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    Rest assured Fluff the countries that provide these terrorist bastards will suffer our full wrath. It's the democracy my friend, focus on the democracy.
     
  22. $tinkle

    $tinkle Expert on blowing

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    don't know about you, but i'm cranky if i don't have my coffee. starbucks is just one inroad to peace & stability. of course, if we took it seriously, we'd put up a few Peets
     
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    I understand that one...
     
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    I found this just now on the CNN web page:


    By Arwa Damon
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    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The images in the Basra police file are nauseating: Page after page of women killed in brutal fashion -- some strangled to death, their faces disfigured; others beheaded. All bear signs of torture.
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    Police chief Gen. Abdul Jalil Khalaf holds a book cataloging the dead.
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    The women are killed, police say, because they failed to wear a headscarf or because they ignored other "rules" that secretive fundamentalist groups want to enforce.

    "Fear, fear is always there," says 30-year-old Safana, an artist and university professor. "We don't know who to be afraid of. Maybe it's a friend or a student you teach. There is no break, no security. I don't know who to be afraid of."

    Her fear is justified. Iraq's second-largest city, Basra, is a stronghold of conservative Shia groups. As many as 133 women were killed in Basra last year -- 79 for violation of "Islamic teachings" and 47 for so-called honor killings, according to IRIN, the news branch of the U.N.'s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

    One glance through the police file is enough to understand the consequences. Basra's police chief, Gen. Abdul Jalil Khalaf, flips through the file, pointing to one unsolved case after another. Video Watch Khalaf show evidence of the brutality »

    "I think so far, we have been unable to tackle this problem properly," he says. "There are many motives for these crimes and parties involved in killing women, by strangling, beheading, chopping off their hands, legs, heads."

    "When I came to Basra a year ago," he says, "two women were killed in front of their kids. Their blood was flowing in front of their kids, they were crying. Another woman was killed in front of her 6-year-old son, another in front of her 11-year-old child, and yet another who was pregnant."
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    The killers enforcing their own version of Islamic justice are rarely caught, while women live in fear.

    Boldly splattered in red paint just outside the main downtown market, a chilling sign reads: "We warn against not wearing a headscarf and wearing makeup. Those who do not abide by this will be punished. God is our witness, we have notified you."

    The attacks on the women of Basra have intensified since British forces withdrew to their base at the airport back in September, police say. Iraqi security forces took over after British troops pulled back, but are heavily infiltrated by militias.

    And tracking the perpetrators of these crimes is nearly impossible, Khalaf says, adding that he doesn't have control of the thousands of policemen and officers.

    "We're trying to trace crimes carried out by an anonymous enemy," he says.

    Amnesty International has raised concern about the increasing violence toward women in Iraq, saying abductions, rapes and "honor killings" are on the rise.

    "Politically active women, those who did not follow a strict dress code, and women [who are] human rights defenders were increasingly at risk of abuses, including by armed groups and religious extremists," Amnesty said in a 2007 report.

    Sometimes, it's just the color of a woman's headscarf that can draw unwanted attention.

    "One time, one of my female colleagues commented on the color of my headscarf," Safana says. "She said it would draw attention ... [and I should] avoid it and stick to colors like gray, brown and black."

    This extremist ideology enrages many secular Muslim women, who say it's a misrepresentation of Islam.

    Sawsan, another woman who works at a university, says the message from the radicals to women is simple: "They seem to be sending us a message to stay at home and keep your mouth shut."
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    After the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003, Sawsan says, the situation was "the best." But now, she says, it's "the worst."

    "We thought there would be freedom and democracy and women would have their rights. But all the things we were promised have not come true. There is only fear and horror."
     
  25. $tinkle

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    i must say i'm shocked - shocked - to find this* happens in the islamic world.





    * women not covering their meat
     
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    Aw, isn't that cute...
     
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    JohnE filthy rascist

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    Ohhhh...I'm shakin, I'm shakin!! :busted::biggrin::banana:
     
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    More developments from the US's close ally: