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Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
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heypeeps, i need advise.

What cassette, derailleur and shifter is a good setup for DH racing?

I personally like sram grip shift, X9 and 12-32 cass but i see alot of Durace derailleur and road cassettes. What is the deal with that ? advantages ??? are they 7 speed or what? do you use a 9 spd shimano trigger shifter ?

Give me the low down.

thanks,

joel
 

Knuckleslammer

took the red pill
The gear thing on this bike perplexes me, but seems like the chain drags on the swingarm in the smaller cogs. Perhaps a road cassette keeps the chain away from the swingarm a little more. Of course I probably don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Hey one question for you guys. I have the spring on the shock wound up pretty tite (I know that's a no no, but I'm not huckin yet)
It sags a little too much for my liking. I'm about 200-210 with gear and the spring is 450. Can I get a bigger spring and what do you suggest. I prefer a stiff ride and don't really give a **** about small bump sensitivity, that's what the fat in my ass is for.
Kevin
 

Johnny Wadd

Chimp
Mar 1, 2004
52
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Brooklyn
Hate to do this but I have too.

I am selling my Brooklyn Race Link, Frame , AVY rear shock, Brooklyn Bars, Brooklyn Seat Brooklyn Pedals and Profile Cranks.

Let me know if anyone knows anyone.

I am hurting to let it go.
 

mike425

Monkey
Apr 16, 2004
105
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Man you must be gutted! What rise are the bars? would you sell those and the pedals seperate?

thanks

mike
 

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
2,030
0
Phoenix, Az USA
Johnny Wadd said:
Hate to do this but I have too. I am selling my Brooklyn Race Link, Frame , AVY rear shock, Brooklyn Bars, Brooklyn Seat Brooklyn Pedals and Profile Cranks.Let me know if anyone knows anyone. I am hurting to let it go.
Dang dude, that sucks. Are you leaving the DH scene? Yours is the sand color RL with the 888 right? If you not selling it as a whole bike, i'd be interested in the bars if they are the 2" ?? model. I have the 4" bars and would like to try the smaller ones sometime.

Thanks and good luck. Im sure you wont have trouble selling it!

joel
 

Johnny Wadd

Chimp
Mar 1, 2004
52
0
Brooklyn
Yeah this sucks, I need to get rid of it for other reasons, so basically i will be leaving the scene for a little,.

Yeah its the Putty Race Link with the 888,
The bars are 4 inch rise.

and I am gonna keep the pedals bars and seat and cranks on to sell with the frame.

I think I have a pic in this post somewhere.
 

macmx

Monkey
Dec 28, 2003
469
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Hi you guys, I'm in athens right now. No bike, but this place would be sweet for riding.

hardtails are not for "hucking". end of story. People who run 200mm fork on hardtails are dummies. Sorry to anyone I offended.

The streetsweeper aka. SS is cool and made at Brooklyn.

I have an eccentric bb on my SS and use it for chaintensioning. It works good.

The yellow SS is probably a prototype, and I just wanted to know if anyone had info on it.

Get over yourselves and go ride before winter is over us completely. BMW lurve baby!!!!!!! :thumb:
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
2,940
353
vancouver eastside
macmx said:
hardtails are not for "hucking". end of story. People who run 200mm fork on hardtails are dummies.
i ran a 7" fork on my letoy for a couple seasons - it was a surprisingly effective setup - nimble, relatively light & bombproof. a great burly trailbike. i even did a couple expert dh races (while waiting for my dh frame - damn you santacruz & your misleading production lead times) - with solid results. there are a few ht's out there that fit big forks quite well. what is "hucking" anyway?
 

JRogers

talks too much
Mar 19, 2002
3,785
1
Claremont, CA
joel hester said:
heypeeps, i need advise.

What cassette, derailleur and shifter is a good setup for DH racing?

I personally like sram grip shift, X9 and 12-32 cass but i see alot of Durace derailleur and road cassettes. What is the deal with that ? advantages ??? are they 7 speed or what? do you use a 9 spd shimano trigger shifter ?

Give me the low down.

thanks,

joel
Not sure if I missed something in the question as I have not looked at earlier pages of this thread but I can try and answer this. I use a Dura ace rear with either a 12-32 or a 12-27 depending on the course and whatnot. Regular 9 speed with a regular shimano rapidfire shifter. A road mech has a shorter cage and sometimes tighter springs making for less movement, less likelihood of getting it caught on something, less weight and faster shifts. For courses without a lot of pedaling or with only a small range of speed a road cassette gives a bigger selection of gears in a range while minimizing weight.
 

nickaziz

Monkey
Aug 4, 2004
261
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xy9ine said:
what is "hucking" anyway?
jumping off anything and everything you can find... roofs... cliffs.... man made drops designed purely to be big... etc. Basically describes riders who are always looking to find and do bigger and stupider drops :thumb:
 

macmx

Monkey
Dec 28, 2003
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sounds like something out of a video game to me. Who has ever met a hucker in real life anyways...
 

tmx

aka chromegoddess
Mar 16, 2003
1,683
2
Portland
Knuckleslammer said:
PULLED PORK RULES
You got that right.

Here's another shot of the bike that sent macmx into a tailspin. It's the BHTH for Brooklyn Hard Tail Hucker, aka the Roof Master 26 (because every Brooklyn has an alias.) It's peg-compatible for rails and coping. :eek:

Pretty sure someone had 4X on the mind when they whipped this one up.
 

tmx

aka chromegoddess
Mar 16, 2003
1,683
2
Portland
Knuckleslammer said:
The gear thing on this bike perplexes me, but seems like the chain drags on the swingarm in the smaller cogs. Perhaps a road cassette keeps the chain away from the swingarm a little more. .......
Knucks: The chain "drag" is normal. Chain may touch the swingarm when you're in those smaller rear cogs (7th and 8th gear). That's what the rubber is for, it really should not effect anything.
 
tmx said:
Here's another shot of the bike that sent macmx into a tailspin. It's the BHTH for Brooklyn Hard Tail Hucker, aka the Roof Master 26 (because every Brooklyn has an alias.) It's peg-compatible for rails and coping. :eek:

Pretty sure someone had 4X on the mind when they whipped this one up.
It's SUCH a nice bike, everythings so clean, getting some really good responses, but it doesn't look like it's made by brooklyn!!!
 

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
2,030
0
Phoenix, Az USA
AR_ said:
It's SUCH a nice bike, everythings so clean, getting some really good responses, but it doesn't look like it's made by brooklyn!!!
Looks bmw to me. the HT gussetts look like BMW's as well as the oval chainstay. the chain stay tubing looks like the tubing used on the RL and TMX rear swing arm. wonder if the seat tube is 29.8? that's a dead give away.
 

macmx

Monkey
Dec 28, 2003
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tmx said:
It's peg-compatible for rails and coping.
That's not even funny t...

PS: My brain is working fine...

I'm gonna go jump off a roof on my bicycle and break my rear wheel. Then people will think I am a good bike rider. Like, I'll be totally like, like the most popular guy in school like...
 

mike425

Monkey
Apr 16, 2004
105
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I aint all for this hardtail huckin lark, but youve gotta admit some guys do it right! Russ morrel goes huge on a hardtail, have you seen him do that rampage line?

mike
 

macmx

Monkey
Dec 28, 2003
469
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Sure, but if you want to jump off stuff - it's just plain logic to do it on a fullsuspension bike.
 

mike425

Monkey
Apr 16, 2004
105
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macmx said:
Sure, but if you want to jump off stuff - it's just plain logic to do it on a fullsuspension bike.
Yep, thats my reasoning as well, just thought id big up one of the few riders whodo it well!

mike
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,161
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macmx, that's pretty closeminded of you.

Plenty of people go big on hardtails to great effect. You need to be smoother is all.

Where do you ride your FQ? Do you ever ride street on it? Take it for a light, XC trail ride? I could just as easily say that riding street on a full suspension bike is stupid, or riding XC on a bike with more than 3-4" of travel is stupid.

Just because there's a tool that you consider the most effective for the job, doesn't mean that other tools can't be used just as well. I've got a buddy who built his Imperial up with a Monster T, and he rips on it. It may not be what you choose, but it's foolish to say that their choice is somehow incorrect.
 

ncrider

Turbo Monkey
Aug 15, 2004
1,564
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Los Angeles
Binary vision is absolutly right. If you like to bomb stuff on a HT then more power to ya. If you preffer a big FS or light XC then good for you too.
Bottom line, ride what you want and respect others for there choices. Heck HT guys are my heros when I see them on a downhill run and if we all rode one once in a while I think it would really smooth out your style.
 

macmx

Monkey
Dec 28, 2003
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I use my fq for lots of stuff. But not technical street or trail riding. I ahve my hardtail for that.

All I am saying is - unless you can't afford it, it is preferable to have a full suspension bike for jumping 20 foot cliffs.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,161
1,261
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macmx said:
All I am saying is - unless you can't afford it, it is preferable to have a full suspension bike for jumping 20 foot cliffs.
No, that's not what you've been saying:

There's no such thing as a hardtail hucker...
hardtails are not for "hucking". end of story. People who run 200mm fork on hardtails are dummies.
I'm gonna go jump off a roof on my bicycle and break my rear wheel. Then people will think I am a good bike rider.
it's just plain logic to do it on a fullsuspension bike
What you've been saying is pretty much summed up in the piece that I put in bold letters.

I'm saying that while you may not want to/be able to drop stuff on a hardtail, plenty of people do want to/are able to. Who knows what their reasons may be... It may be financial. It may be just "because they can". It may be to improve their skills and learn to be smoother. Regardless of their reason, they're out on two wheels riding and should be treated with the same respect that you would expect. That entails not calling them "dummies", making sarcastic comments about how cool they think they are, or implying that they are illogical for riding what they do.

To be honest, I think some of the TMXs posted in this thread are ludicrous. Way too heavy, way too much suspension. I bite my tongue, though, because I'm sure just as many people think riding DH on my Imperial (yes, I am one of those hardtail riders) is silly.

Oops, thread hijacking in progress...

Back on topic, Knuckle, that is a beautiful, beautiful build. I am consumed with jealousy. As a matter of fact, didn't you say you lived near Boston? I'm going to drive out there and go from house to house just hoping to catch a glimpse of that black beauty...
 

macmx

Monkey
Dec 28, 2003
469
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I do think that it is stupid to run huge fork on hardtails. I once tried to run a shiver on my old le toy fram and tried to get used to it, but i just realized that it didn't work. I do not believe that there is any such thing as a hardtail "hucker" - first off, I have no idea what exactly a hucker is. Secondly, the whole point of fullys is that to obsorb shocks - hard landing and such.

as for the description of the roff hucking - come on! Have a sense of humor dude. I've seen kids jump off roofs to flat on their bmx bikes and totally dying on the landing. Redardless off whether they're doing it because they like to do it, it is still rather stupid.

You can also have it the other way around. People who ride skateparks and XC on huge DH bikes, which doesn't make sense either.

My point is - IN MY OPPINION, riding is more fun when you have a bike for your needs. That doesn't mean you have to agree.

End of story.
 

Knuckleslammer

took the red pill
binary visions said:
Knuckle, that is a beautiful, beautiful build. I am consumed with jealousy. As a matter of fact, didn't you say you lived near Boston? I'm going to drive out there and go from house to house just hoping to catch a glimpse of that black beauty...
You wana come check it out man, I'm in Worcester, be happy to show it to ya.
Knuck
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,161
1,261
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macmx said:
My point is - IN MY OPPINION, riding is more fun when you have a bike for your needs. That doesn't mean you have to agree.

End of story.
No, I don't have to agree. And you don't have to like "hucker hardtails". But simply because it's an opinion, doesn't mean it's okay to insult someone on the basic premise that you wouldn't ride what they're riding. You know the old addage "if you can't say something nice..."? Yeah, it's a load of crap, but occasionally it applies.

I think Kia's are great big piles of sh!t, but I don't see a picture of someone's Kia Sorrento and say "man, people who drive Kias are dummies", or "if you want 4wd, it's only logical that you buy a truck" - it's the same principle.

Knuckleslammer said:
You wana come check it out man, I'm in Worcester, be happy to show it to ya.
Might just have to take you up on that sometime... I lust over those minis...
 

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2002
2,030
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Phoenix, Az USA
this post would have MANY more pics but ever since we were limited to the number of pics allowed per user, many cool bmw related photos have been deleted to make room for new ones.