Yes! Finally some good weight comparison! Top work Sverre.
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nice work sverre! that scale is cool too.
you too? arrgh.Jimmy_Pop said:
i have a 6.875" ti spindle with knight titanium crank bolts - a weight savings of 170grams over the steel spindle with steel bolts (too lazy to post digital scale pix - good to see another weenie in the fold, sverre).
*edit* on second thought, i don't think i can bear putting the steel bb back in the frame - it needs all the help it can get. i'm currently in the process of polishing & rebuilding the thing; the weight of the frame & swingarm (no shock or any other hardware) is 13lbs. mon dieu. we'll see what it weighs complete. fun frames to work on, though - so many neat widgets & details.
The rim trail in Moab, highly recommended ride 
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When Sverre can ride, though, there's some serious speed in the bermsSverre said:
The landing is not flat, it's outside of the pic.
HELL YEAH Anth.! \m/
I SSSSSOOO wanna ride those trails. Looks awesome. :dancing:
I SSSSSOOO wanna ride those trails. Looks awesome. :dancing:
That's awsome Tony!Tonycalves said:The rim trail in Moab, highly recommended ride
I rode the Porcupine Rim Trail in August with my brother - he on his v10 and i had my RL. It was awsome! So fun, beautiful, fast and a bunch of sections that we spotted and stopped, carried our bikes back up and dropped some cool ledges. One of the was a sweet 5" ledge drop to a short rock tranny.
It was very cloudy and rainy when we were there so i didnt get any pictures and we could not see any of the distant vistas. We will go again in 2006 and hopefully he will get to see just how high up he was.
thanks for posting those up!
joel
Hey Tony,
Looks like fun on Shorty's ex mini. You take Andy with you to Moab?
Here's a shot of Conner on his TMX droppin a rock in Nobel
EDIT: Joel, thanks again for the hopey. I like it alot! I think I'll get one for my trail bike too.
Looks like fun on Shorty's ex mini. You take Andy with you to Moab?
Here's a shot of Conner on his TMX droppin a rock in Nobel
EDIT: Joel, thanks again for the hopey. I like it alot! I think I'll get one for my trail bike too.
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Love to see westcoast Brooklyns. Rode Noble yesterday and gonna ride it again tomorrow night. Tuesday and Thursday night ride group, give a holla if your interested or if you want to ride any other time. I was out in Moab with a friend from the east coast AJ. I use to race for his shop DownCycles it caters to Hardcore rides. He's the fastest rider no one will ever know. He had a Hollow Point and I had a hard time keeping up with him on the way down. Rolling through the Venetian. My names on the place I'm allowed.
yet another reason to sell a kidney 
. SPONSER ME PLEASE BMW!!
. SPONSER ME PLEASE BMW!!
If I had a Hitman at a Casino, I'd put blinking lights all over it and Leopard Skin Fuzz on the seat and handlebars.
What happened to the short bus Bro?
not to be ofensive or generate any controversy, but can somebody explain me what makes this bikes so special...!?!?
Tonycalves said:
Like my mini, the shortbus is helpnig pay some bills
Jack Shaft design eliminates pedal bobpatineto said:
Moto Linkages make excellent progressive leverage rate
Brooklyn's cromo build = indestructable, yet not overly heavy (compare em to other frames including shocks and cranks/guides)
Brooklyn have been great in bike innovation. Better than just about any company out there. On top of that, they're awesome people. You'll never really feel like you're dealing with a corporation or someone who "just works there". They have no such notions.
yeap,,I can see those advantages, the bikes feature a very smart down to earth design, actually I collect a bunch of fotos of them On This Gallery if you guys have some more i be happy to safe them there for everybody to see..Shortbus said:
I do need to say the frames do look to be heavy, but is nice to know this issues with mass are not so bad.
oh yeah... that makes such a diference, i love to deal with real people that work on the stuff as oppose to just talk about since everyday they find a better way to make them better and keep lifting the bar higher and higher,,,
i guess i was little worry that BMW will suffer from the same sindrome as Fixgear bikes are having now... A.K.A. being super trendy
thanks for the clear answer to my question.
Because brooklyns rule
The perfect explanation you're looking for can be found on the DownCycles website, but it seems to not be functioning at the moment for me to post the link. So if you're really interested to know what makes these bikes so special, you can check at downcycles.com when they're back up and running and somewhere on there AJ has an extensive review of the Race Link along with a little history of the bikes evolution. AJ (Down Cycles' owner) rides nearly every DH bike out there and he was a rippin' pro for quite a few years. (There's a video on that site of AJ with a helmet cam that will give you an idea of the level of the rider whose review you'll be reading.)patineto said:
Hope you read the article and I hope it helps clear things up for you. Likely though, you will continue to be skeptical (only saying you're skeptical because of the added exclamation points in your inquiry) until you have the chance to ride one on the mtn yourself because no words can describe the way this bike really feels.
If I may now ask you a question, what is it about the company or the bikes that make you skeptical? Again, assuming you've got skepticism in there because of the "!!!" within your "???".
edit: I see you sorta already answered my question about your skepticism.
Not to be ofesive but when I see a response like this .....sikocycles said:
I can not stop thinking about the D^mm A^^ Art student going down a really step hill in san Francisco on a shinny (NJS aprove) Fixwheel bike......
just sound so Trendy and in fashion driven kind of destroy the real merits of the comapny...
Yeah tha AJ helmet cam video goes BOZONKERS towards the middle of the video when they start playing Ministry's JUST ONE FIX. It's AWESOME.
i read that review already and I found it fasinating, I race motorcycles in rallys for the other BMW and also KTM so I'm kind of use to the suspension linkages and fabrication methods but i'm also marvel by some of thier inovation and more than anything their K.I.S.S. aproach to frame design making them so strong and durable...tmx said:
So far nothing makes me Skeptical about the company,, I just find sometimes certain brand develope a "Cult follow up" for diferent reasons than just the quality of the equiment and design.If I may now ask you a question, what is it about the company or the bikes that make you skeptical? Again, assuming you've got skepticism in there because of the "!!!" within your "???".
thanks for the exelent compendium...
I understand what you're saying and agree with you to a point. That point being that if you make a decision about something that might just be worth your while based on your interest in not being "trendy" then you are still being ruled by that trend. Additionally, you're basing it off the attidue from the few customers/fans you might come across, not the company or it's product.patineto said:
In Siko's defense (and the rest of us over-enthusiastic highly-defensive Bklyn riders), we face loads of hatred over our bikes every time we take 'em out. This rotten attitude comes from people who have never ridden the bikes, had no experience with the company and insist on remaining closed-minded to it. Brooklyn Machine Works has been at it for 9 years, they have this remarkable reputation with their customers because the bikes perform better than anything we've ever ridden, yet they continue to be disregarded as a worthwhile entity in the bike world. That causes some of us a quick flex response to skepticism.
TMX I'm not trying to dispute the merits of the bikes in anyway, i think they are really Nice (never have the chance to ride one,,,well not so far) but i think they make a really smart sound product, plus they have a exelent sense of style and cool atttitude...tmx said:
the point that I'm trying to make is that i hear the same...
"Becuase they rule"
when shimano release the U-brakes in 1987 same as the first Shimano Rapidfire came out , the Rockshox Rs-1, the TreK WHY (Y) Bike and many more but just look were they are now.
I guess i was just asking for solid data and "engeniering point of view" response as oppose to viseral and emotional since is being proven again and again that sometimes does can be misguided...
again I'm on your (you guys with the BMW fan club) side of the fence, I love those bikes, they look to be honest, hard core and made to Freaking fly and I can not get enogh of them, I just want to learn more and more,,,reason why i ask in the first place..
Ok since I own a few BMWs I can say a few things. If you ever had a chance to talk to Doc (he make the frames) you will understand his passion and love that goes into every bike. He wont make junk. He makes sure it works and works well. They stand behind there products and I wont ride anything else. Its just a love affair that some owners have with the bikes. You really have to own one to really understand. I love the sticker that says "HandMade in BROOKLNY New York"
This is my quiver of Brooklyns. I sold the TMX about a year ago I'm looking to sell the the Big Link. I don't have room in the budget to hang on to them all, I wish I did. It's a sin not to see them riden. The Park and the FQ are kissing cousins didn't have the loot to build both soon though. If I'm ever up at my buddies in SF I'll let you ride the Hitman. I let people ride them all the time. I let a few guys up in Whistler ride the Biglink and Hitman. Letting people ride them is the only way to appreciate them. You just have to give me your wife and child as collateral. If I ever meet you I'll make you a beliver. Yes it is kind of cultish but there's no koolaid involved.
Tonycalves said:
If you want to sell your Big Link as a frame/shock combo please send me a PM. I am interested
i've owned a bmw racelink for 2 years now. don't think i'll ever get rid of it either. conviced a lbs owner to buy one as well. and when my friend broke his ellsworth he finally saved up and i built him one last week. he's addicted. most of the locals don' really understand because my bike doesn't have VPP or doesn't keep up with technology.... but they do. i look at my tattoo artists motorcycle and its setup almost the same way. its the stuff that works. just can't wear baggy pants when riding. also seems everyone that owns one just seems to be nice. sure over here, east coast, 2 main places i ride. plattekill and diablo. go to either and you'll see atleast 10 or bmw bikes. nice to see. sure everyone else has a new M3 or Sunday. but you'll also see that one GT Lobo floating around (most scary). i don't really have a point here, the bike pretty much uses moto shocks and linkage. the chain is rotated around the pivot so there is no chain growth. i also don't think i can ride another bike without noticing how much that bike has chain growth and brake jack. i'll never be the same. i'm the original owner of the RL#40, the others here are #94 and #105. i've built both up aswell. trying to convince the lbs owner to buy a fq so we can play with that too.
cheers!
Steve
cheers!
Steve
As soon as Edd got one, that was it for me. This is probably why i take such a dig at over-marketed products all the time. Brooklyn don't hit you with any markerting crap, they know there bikes work, and they work damn well.
A sticker on the side of a bike saying 'Virtual pivot point' in some daft logo doesn't make it ride good. You get on a Brooklyn and feel instantly at home. That's what its all about.
A sticker on the side of a bike saying 'Virtual pivot point' in some daft logo doesn't make it ride good. You get on a Brooklyn and feel instantly at home. That's what its all about.
maybe we'll finally get you in da family!!! yippee! Tony seems to be good folks and that would be an awsome bike to own! With your mtn8, get ready for what, a 70 pound bike? that's crazy. Im sure once you get that thing rolling downhill, it is soo much fun to ride.seismic said:If you want to sell your Big Link as a frame/shock combo please send me a PM. I am interested
If you do, please promise not to beat ppl over the head with the "bmws rule" mantra - the avy thing is funny but dont do the samething with bmw. OK? K!
joel
RL#65
yeah, my tmx was 58#'s and i rode it everywhere and i commute to work on my RL (46-47 pounds depending on tires). I have never ridden a 70 pound bike.DHS said:
My big link is over 70lbs
new cult memeber. #105 The Amish
testing her out on a little drop.
here's a little bigger drop
dark green front, grey rear end. cool colors. 888, hadley, SRAM, HOPE.
good times. its the 3rd one i've built up. only took about 2hours. getting faster. always like to take my time though. should probaly go back and bleed the brakes.
testing her out on a little drop.
here's a little bigger drop
dark green front, grey rear end. cool colors. 888, hadley, SRAM, HOPE.
good times. its the 3rd one i've built up. only took about 2hours. getting faster. always like to take my time though. should probaly go back and bleed the brakes.
Giving the hitman hugs and kisses, it needs love too sometimes. And how do I reset my uploads I'm running out of room to post pics.
www.photobucket.com. its free. host all your own pics at decent quality.
but to get rid of the ones on here its in the private message menu to the left.
but to get rid of the ones on here its in the private message menu to the left.