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Sandwich

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any other racelink owners get a lot of washing out from the front wheel? quite frequently my front will slide out to the right and i'll keep going straight. it happens regardless of tires. Could it be the short top tube? Is the HA too steep? Do I just suck? It does it all the time, but I've never noticed it on anyof my other bikes...
 

sikocycles

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I notice my front wheel slide out only when I have my weight too far back. Easy for me since I am so tall.
Fork may have too much rebound also.
 

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Monkey
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any other racelink owners get a lot of washing out from the front wheel? quite frequently my front will slide out to the right and i'll keep going straight. it happens regardless of tires. Could it be the short top tube? Is the HA too steep? Do I just suck? It does it all the time, but I've never noticed it on anyof my other bikes...
A steep head angle will tend to make the back break traction earlier,lazy will make the front run wide and push out,especially at lower speeds.Either learn to weigh the front more in corners(especially tighter ones) or slacken up your head angle if you can.Because the wheel base lengthens when the suspension is compressed it ads to the problem if you slam down into corners rather than ralling them more gently.
 

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hmmm...good suggestions. I'm 6ft, if that helps. It seems like I am more over the front wheel when it happens, which is why I hit so hard. I think I do throw my weight into corners. It usually happens on berms, too.

It's like the wheel just gets taken right out from under me...not so much like it pushes...and when it happens, it happens fast. Maybe I'll try lowering the fork in the crowns a little.
 

DhUrbaner

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I had the same issues with my steed. Because the head angle is a bit steep, At high speed turns I would over compensate and tend to try and steer the front end. I would lose the whole front end like that. The idea is to keep the bike straight, Dont steer to much,and lean the bike over. Also bring your weight forward on the bike. One more thing, Try to get the bike as even as possible, If its tall in the front, it will be harder to rail those long sweeping turns.
 

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this is the best I can do...the bars are about the same shape as a monkeybar...dual 24s...i raised the fork a bit in the crown, but that's about it.
 

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Make sure your fork isn't too soft. You should be able to come close to bottoming it just in the parking lot...
 

bballe336

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Sandwich:

The problem is that your bike is a hucksickle....really. 24 inch wheels ride incredibly poorly offroad. I haven't ridden them for DH but I have ridden them on a "trail" bike and it rode like crap. And the other problem is your tires. You can't find any decent 24 inch tires so you probably have tires that aren't suitable for the conditions or tires that just plain old suck. Get 26's, get some proper tires, and you'll be good.
 

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fork seems to be pretty good. I've never bottomed it, but the damping prevents that. Doesn't seem to ride too low in the travel, and I don't seem to come close to bottoming it in the parking lot.

bballe-
I've ridden gazzis, arrow slow react, and specialized bighit tires on the front. You think those all suck? Outside of this stupidness they've performed admirably.

Also, while I do wish that I had 26" wheels, I bought the bike used and I ride what's on it. I got a super nice selection of tires and the wheels are brand new so I'm not really excited to sell them all for a loss. I too hated 24s on a trailbike but they're ok for DH. I haven't had a problem with them yet, outside of a too-low BB.

I'm not sure that this is coming across correctly...it's not that my tires suck and are sliding. I'm over the bike, right about centered, and looking my way through the berm. Right at the start, my front wheel will go right and I go down. It's happened twice and I don't have a good explanation...both times I've been alone, unfortunately.
 

Sandwich

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could it be possible that my front tire is turning too far then catching, and that's why I'm falling?

maybe the front tire is unweighted, then when some weight get put on it, it turns, and fast.
 

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Monkey
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Hmmm weird photo,Your forks do appear steep but not nowing Avvys they'd appear to be set fairly low,how much leg normaly sticks out the top fellas?
Are your forks all done up correctly,axle and tripple clamps?
Tyre pressures.
Spoke tension?
24s don't have as good traction or feel(predictability) for cornering as 26 but this doesn't seem like your problem.Try one of your other tyres just to see if it's your tread pattern and bike combo.
Rebound setting,if it's to fast the forks can try to push the wheel out on the rebound stroke.
It doesn't sound like you're oversteering either,weird.
Good luck.
 

tmoney727t

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You poor dude,did you get teased at school are you still being teased,or is your quest for a power trip just because of your inadequately small penis?(rhetorical question,just **** off **** stirrer).
Its because I have an inadequately small penis. In all honesty I have never ridden a BMW but they look heavy as hell.
 

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Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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They're only a touch heavier than your averge DH sled. They ride excellent due to the high pivots ability to suck up square edge hits the Avvy shock and the fact that they pedal well and indipendant of the suspension,they've also got no brake induced issues,and will outlive most other bikes by a hell of a lot. Try it,you'll like it.
 

ViciousDHer

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If i get a chance to try one out I will. I have heard the welds on them are poop though.
ok dude now you've crossed the line. You will git a beatdown if You show Your face at platty this weekend or any other time. IT IS TIME TO APOLOGIZE !! AS*SWIp*
 

bballe336

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bballe-
I've ridden gazzis, arrow slow react, and specialized bighit tires on the front. You think those all suck? Outside of this stupidness they've performed admirably.
Yeah, all those tires suck. Buy some 26's and some decent tires. If that didn't help I'd be hard pressed to find some problem other than, possibly, your riding techniques.
 

Sandwich

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I'll make the move when I can figure out what to do with the 24" rims and tires.

I'm surprised to hear that you think the arrow tires suck...i was so impressed with them at whiteface

also...the angle on that shot is weird and I don't have another one. the saddle is lower, i've never had a problem with that, I'll try raking the bars back a little.
 

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does anyone have info for what kind of fender to use on the rear of the bike? I know it's a "modified the", but not whether it's a front or a rear, or what.

also how to fit a regular fender to an avalanche dhf?

I don't care how gay it looks, i'm tired of getting a faceful of dirt and having to clean frozen mud from my shockular area.
 

Shortbus

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does anyone have info for what kind of fender to use on the rear of the bike? I know it's a "modified the", but not whether it's a front or a rear, or what.

also how to fit a regular fender to an avalanche dhf?

I don't care how gay it looks, i'm tired of getting a faceful of dirt and having to clean frozen mud from my shockular area.
I used to run a THE XC front fender on the back of my mini, it was nice and light but my only thing with it is it seemed to flex a bit more than I'd have wanted it to, so maybe a front DH fender would be better?

sorry can't help ya on the DHF :bonk:
 

Sandwich

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thanks for the reply...i probably just take out the headlock device but I want to make sure...the normal THE expander won't fit.

Did you use the front half of the front fender, or the back?
 

Jimmy_Pop

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thanks for the reply...i probably just take out the headlock device but I want to make sure...the normal THE expander won't fit.
Did you use the front half of the front fender, or the back?
On the rear fender, use a XC THE fender. You can use the front or rear portion cause they are both the same once you cut em down to fit on your RL.
Keep the unused section of the fender as a spare.

Also, on the DHF, I used a Unibit to drill out the hole so i could fit my headlock thru the stock THE bracket.
http://images.gruntville.com/images/articles/modtools/unibit.jpg
Atleast i think i used the stock bracket. If not, just go to the hardware store and buy a piece of flat metal and make your own bracket.

joel

misl pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Jimmy-pop/newfenderoutside.jpg
tried to mount another one to protect the links - DID NOT work.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Jimmy-pop/fenderinside.jpg

THis winter, I'm going to get a thick piece of rubber to act like a mud flap to cover the links from mud. it will look pimp.

Also, get you a plug for your crank arm to keep water out
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Jimmy-pop/LHD-plugged.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Jimmy-pop/LHD-plug.jpg