BOOOOOO E-BIKES
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Who is gonna stop you? Hell there are literally no Rangers in most of California. Just saying......
yea but in some regions in CA (socal in particular) trails are monitored by Karen, and she's gonna wanna talk to the manager.
"I don't see pedal bikes going away"
Gawd dammit. Get off my lawn!
Gawd dammit. Get off my lawn!
I thought this was the bicycle industry. Turns out its the "whatever we can do to squeeze more money out of the consumer" industry.
You know what I love about Pinkbike? I can opt out of the e-bike news and never see it. Though why I clicked and read on this thread is a mystery to me.Heckler (But yeah.. sort of an e-Bronson I suppose)
Stif Mountain Bikes on Instagram: "Let the Heckling begin! The brand new Santa Cruz Heckler is here and it’s a beauty! Full Carbon CC Frame. 150mm of Lower-link driven VPP travel. Shimano Steps E8000 pedal assist system. The game just changed! Turn your sound on and have a sneak peek, all the details will be on our website soon! #heckler #santacruzbicycles #wellbastardfast #stifmtb"
130 likes, 5 comments - stifmountainbikes on February 10, 2020: "Let the Heckling begin! The brand new Santa Cruz Heckler is here and it’s a beauty! Full Carbon CC Frame. 150mm of Lower-link driven VPP travel. Shimano Steps E8000 pedal assist system. The game just changed! Turn your sound on...www.instagram.com
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Full details on PB
First Look: Santa Cruz's First eMTB, the 2020 Heckler - Pinkbike
The aptly named Heckler is a Shimano-powered, pedal-assist Bronson. Surprised? Or was it about time?www.pinkbike.com
How much money is being spent to develop the e-bike segment?
Also, supply and demand is a thing. What if they emphasized affordability and built badass bikes that commoners could afford and then the industry put all the monies into access and trail building. Here in Yakima we had a hollow shell of a mtb scene, we didn't have a crop of groms in over a decade. What revitalized the scene? WAS IT E-BIKES??? haha
It was legal trail building and community outreach. The LBS's have been selling mountain bikes like crazy and we have groms in town. We don't need motors, we need trails.
Edit - Yes I know Santa Cruz has the Pay Dirt program, I guess they're laying bets on everything.
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The bio-bike*/acoustic/traditional MTB sales are subsidizing the ebike insertion into the market. I for one call for a boycott on the moar expensive models of the already expensive brands, such as Santa Cruz, Specialized, Pivot and so on.
*@Tantrum Cycles was responsible for bringing that term back from his last Eurobike trip.
Well fuck Vital, they deleted my comment on the hEckler piece. I just stated Santa Cruz had found a new way to make their bikes moar expensive.
Wow, it’s open season in the Pinkbike comments.
They deleted it?!?
*chefs kiss*
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System that limits e-bike speeds will be tested on Dutch roads
Tests conducted outside Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport could slow fast s-pedelecs.
Why are you posting that jon? Do you even know what an S-Pedalec is?
They’re already legally classed as mopeds, so you have to have a driving licence, the vehicle needs to registered, taxed and insured, and you need to wear the correct safety equipment: ie. a motorbike helmet.
They’re already legally classed as mopeds, so you have to have a driving licence, the vehicle needs to registered, taxed and insured, and you need to wear the correct safety equipment: ie. a motorbike helmet.
yes but if the technology exists to remotely slow them.........
it sure as fuck is on a crowded bike path, or single track.
i have a commuter that goes 32, I know from first hand experience.
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Dalston fatal e-bike crash rider 'going too fast'
Thomas Hanlon is charged with causing the death of pedestrian Sakine Cihan by careless driving.
www.bbc.com
OMG the UK tabloids have turned up. Your point must be valid now 
S-Pedalecs being taxed and insured road vehicles are illegal on shared paths where bicycles are allowed (crowded or otherwise).
and seriously, WTF sort of DH rider genuinely believes 28mph is too fast for singletrack?
S-Pedalecs being taxed and insured road vehicles are illegal on shared paths where bicycles are allowed (crowded or otherwise).
and seriously, WTF sort of DH rider genuinely believes 28mph is too fast for singletrack?
I was going to specify on flat trails or uphill, but I figured it was implied.
DH -ers don’t use ebikes, they are too slow.
DH -ers don’t use ebikes, they are too slow.
On flat trails Emtb max speeds aren't any quicker either.
so you're worried about people going uphill too fast?
Have you even tried a decent climb on an Emtb?
You won't be doing 28mph. But perhaps half that.
Remind me. What exactly is it you're bumping your gums about again?
so you're worried about people going uphill too fast?
Have you even tried a decent climb on an Emtb?
You won't be doing 28mph. But perhaps half that.
Remind me. What exactly is it you're bumping your gums about again?
Sarcasm no longer in vogue up North?
methinks thou doth protest too much.
methinks thou doth protest too much.
Dude on my gravel bike I comfortably spin out at 16-18 mph. On my buddies 45lb e-bike that same spin out is like 27-29 mph. It doesn't feel like a bicycle, more like a missile. My perception has to move way out in front and my reaction times decrease. I can imagine that the ER doctors are going to confuse motorcycle and ebike victims.
What do you mean "spin out"? spinning out to me means when you can no longer pedal any faster, and is due to gearing and the riders ability to hold a high cadence. most Emtbs stop assisting with anywhere near as much power/torque around a measly 110-140 rpm.
and top speed on the flat and DH is actually way higher on my 18lb roadbike than my 47lb emtb, My max cadence is higher on my roadbike too.
not sure what your point is. Dude.
and top speed on the flat and DH is actually way higher on my 18lb roadbike than my 47lb emtb, My max cadence is higher on my roadbike too.
not sure what your point is. Dude.
With faster speeds and heavier weight the wrecks are going to be more violent.
With often less experienced riders.
and how would that exactly be a problem? are less dead traffic victims something you are concerned with? those speed limits are there for a reason...
Think fire.
We have a local asshat who has built a fatbike with a huge motor, quite proud of himself, scoots around on local paved and gravel roads, no helmet, smokes...
Doesn't prove anything...
I suppose my experience is with pavement based ebikes.
Danny Macaskill just released his worst video yet to promote the new Santa Cruz ebike. I didn't even make it through the whole thing. Yeah, he could do some bike stuff on it but the whole time it just looks worse than a normal bike. His lines and stunts were several levels below his normal riding. Perfect example of how these things only make sense for people too out of shape to pedal. They will never be "another toy" for high level riders.