Out of interest can you quantify what "end of life" actually means to you?(but not before its end of life)
rust tends to be what kills cars here. mine is a 2013. The rust is beginning to take hold. If I had to venture a guess, it has another 4-5 years in it? I'm planning to scrap it when cost of repairs are greater than cost of new car payments, or when it won't pass the safety tests anymore.Out of interest can you quantify what "end of life" actually means to you?
To me end of life means a scrapper. And if (like me) you tend to buy 10+ yrs old cars (with circa 100000miles) until they're so uneconomical to keep running they need to be scrapped there's no way on earth you're going to pony up tens of thousands of pounds for a modern electric replacement.
That's not really a thing around here, as dirt bikes are so far off the map they never come up in land use conversations anymore, although I agree they should. Frankly some of the trail networks that make the most sense for e-bike use within ~100 miles of here are OHV parks like Mammoth Bar and Rock Creek/Georgetown.The adamant ebiker population wants all the access that bicycles have and then refuse to be even considered allies with the dirtbikers because they want to maintain this illusion of being a cyclist or some shit.
sure....That's not really a thing around here, as dirt bikes are so far off the map they never come up in land use conversations anymore,
i'll be 40 later this year and i'm only on my second car.Out of interest can you quantify what "end of life" actually means to you?
To me end of life means a scrapper. And if (like me) you tend to buy 10+ yrs old cars (with circa 100000miles) until they're so uneconomical to keep running they need to be scrapped there's no way on earth you're going to pony up tens of thousands of pounds for a modern electric replacement.
That's only because cars hadn't been put into commercial production before thenI didn't own a car until I was 35.
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Same here. I live near the coast and our winter road treatments absolutely fuck cars with rust.. Current car's a 07 with a bit of welding combating the worst of its rust. Next major issue it'll be scrap.rust tends to be what kills cars here. mine is a 2013. The rust is beginning to take hold. If I had to venture a guess, it has another 4-5 years in it? I'm planning to scrap it when cost of repairs are greater than cost of new car payments, or when it won't pass the safety tests anymore.
I had vans previously... But yeah. Laugh at the guy old enough to remember yo mom as hotThat's only because cars hadn't been put into commercial production before then
Vans, wagons and utes FTW. I've never owned a 4-wheeled vehicle that required disassembling the bike to put in. Its always been my one stipulation - I know its a simple task but I hate pulling the bike apart every time.I had vans previously...
Yeah. I'm the same. My car will take 2 full bikes without disassembling anything with 2 full sized passenger seats still up. Good chance I'll go back to a van next. Prices are crazy tho.Vans, wagons and utes FTW. I've never owned a 4-wheeled vehicle that required disassembling the bike to put in. Its always been my one stipulation - I know its a simple task but I hate pulling the bike apart every time.
30 for meI didn't own a car until I was 35.
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Almost 50, and still on my second vehicle.i'll be 40 later this year and i'm only on my second car.
I apologize for calling you names @kidwooI've tried to explain it multiple times but I'll try one more time. Here, in the US, in the environment I know the best (and better than most), ebikers are stuck in a middle ground of being treated like motorized users, while wanting, and being used to the access provided as a non-motorized user. So, I made the joke I did because a lot of those owners/riders would benefit greatly from just accepting that their toys are considered motorized vehicles here. Like it or not that's what dictates MOST of the access here nationwide. So they might do well to get over the idea that they are superior to motorized users because they bought it from a bike company since the laws are the laws. The laws are dumb, created in an irrelevant era, granted. But that straddling of the laws here is just going to keep things in limbo. We've all been places where some of the best MTB riding is multi-use (including motorized) trails (parts of porc rim, the best trail off the monarch crest, downieville etc...). They're not incompatible. In fact some good moto chewed descents end up being the best mtb riding.
So that's the joke I made. What pissed me off is that you genuinely think I'm trying to impose some kind of conformity, which is like the polar opposite of how I view the world. Living in CA I'm far more the victim of this idyllic environmentally responsible hokey utopia conformity, so no, that's never what I'm after. And I sure as shit am not some homophobe, regardless of the framing of my joke. Straight white male power is the conformity in this country. I'm much more of a 'fly your freak flag' approach.
I can blow off idiots saying dumb shit but I elaborate on this stuff because I know and respect you. And I feel like you could give me the benefit of the doubt and maybe ask what I mean before "fuck you and your conformist rules." If I were a conformist where I lived I'd be building shit IMBA flow trails. It's not ebike hate, it's ebike user hate in this country because they want it both ways. There's a way forward but it's going to have to involve accepting some realities about existing law.
I already know that outside of sweden sleds are banned in most of europe. It's the same gentrification BS that controls ebikes here. It's all dumb.
It's not names (you didn't didn't actually call me anything) it's a lack of the ability to just say "WTF are you talking about" and try to understand where I might be coming from.I apologize for calling you names @kidwoo
I rode a bit of that on an amish bike with joetron a few years ago. That area is rad, I'd love to see that much more mileage on a dirtbike.there are 400+ miles of motorized trail in the Big Holes,
I’m lacking in more abilities than just that! Base model human being.It's not names (you didn't didn't actually call me anything) it's a lack of the ability to just say "WTF are you talking about" and try to understand where I might be coming from.
I get called names all the time but I only get pissed when people who should know better jump to assumptions.
I can blow off idiots but you're not that. I can promise you I harbor no "ebike hate" beyond the marketing behind the abusrdly expensive ones, and the dumb rules we have here that cause some really odd and annoying unintended consequences.
will you promise to keep jeff brines away from me?Please come visit, I’ll lend you an ebike. Buckow is invited, too. Kumbaya.
I'm outBrines?
We probably can’t escape him.
I think Switzerland...at least the flag looks like it.where is here?
technical trails turned flow track, in the land without mountains?I think Switzerland...at least the flag looks like it.
He will catch you, he always doesAs you know, I’m only on the Dark Side until I can escape.
Brines?
We probably can’t escape him.
Bring all of your two wheeled conveyances.
Some have not that much elevation but ride their bikes, others have high mountains but need to ride moppeds to get up them.technical trails turned flow track, in the land without mountains?
I have a flawless track record I fully intend on maintaining.He will catch you, he always does
Some have not that much elevation but ride their bikes, others have high mountains but need to ride moppeds to get up them.
our laws are based on completely unrealistic propagandized hatred of motors among the smug anywhere outdoors, the same people who consume just as much or more, just under some bs environmental coverbig and small government + overregulation makes it hard for american ebikers. some european lady tries to change that but things are unnecessarily hard
Everyone spent so much time hating motors, they weren't prepared for motors designed to make someone feel like they were riding a bike, a now major attractant to the same smug pricksle /me, 2 weeks ago in switzerland (italian part). enjoying a nice cappucino right by the lake inbetween my ebike runs while i travelled there by swiss high speed train, powered by green energy
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which was always the real goal of things like electric motors (IE remote combustion vehicles) and most of the so called renewable power sources, so it sounds like it's workingmy lifetime co2 emissions let me sleep well each night