Never heard anyone say "gunt". Sounds like it might have been infuenced by the name "Barse" - The area of skin between your ballsack and arsehole
BOOOOOO E-BIKES
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If you're fit/strong/able enough to push a 50lb bike without assistance there's fuck all smart about continually faffing about changing gears in situ until you find the one that relates best to your walking speed only to hold walk assist and find that within 10 steps gears require changing again.
it's probably quite a nice feature if you're not.
I was just drafting a post about that bike. I read through the comments and found out cotic had tried a internal battery with aluminum tubing and it ended up being 2kg (4.4lb in freedom unites) heavier than the steel version they went with. Added benefits of using an external battery is you can effectively have a lightweight and full power ebike depending on which battery you strap on.
My old Alu external battery ESommet is still lighter than pretty much every modern internal battery full powered carbon framed Emtb.
The main two reasons external battery EMTBs aren't really made anymore:
Punters think they "look" ugly. Seriously? it's a bike. they're all kinda ugly
Punters think it makes the bike "look" like an Ebike. FFS it IS an Ebike you delusional twat!
internal battery Emtbs are generally heavier AND weaker, MOAR expensive and a moar of a PITA to swap batteries. Where's Keith when you need him to come up with some stupid new rule of 3?
The main two reasons external battery EMTBs aren't really made anymore:
Punters think they "look" ugly. Seriously? it's a bike. they're all kinda ugly
Punters think it makes the bike "look" like an Ebike. FFS it IS an Ebike you delusional twat!
internal battery Emtbs are generally heavier AND weaker, MOAR expensive and a moar of a PITA to swap batteries. Where's Keith when you need him to come up with some stupid new rule of 3?
Not really if you look at the price. Particualrly frame.
Cy has always done a great job at blowing his own trumpet about his engineering achievements.
1kg lighter here, 2kg lighter there... But apparently no need to mention of it's actual fucking weight?
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like GUNT was a real word?
similar to specialized, you buy into the warranty
Claimed weight: 21.5 kg (C5 Prototype with 418 Wh battery
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Thanks. Didn't see that.
Doesn't sound particularly light at all. unless it has a burly build and DH casings
Was the spec for that weight also given?
That's exactly what I said 4 months ago. 13 speed also.
It could just be a 12 speed microspline linkglide cassette? Shimano XT M8150 already does all those things, there's just not a 12 speed linkglide cassette yet.
EDIT: I forgot there is already an 11 speed Linkglide Microspline cassette, that's probably what they are using if it's not unreleased shimano goodies.
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Hmmm, you're right. The ebike version will be 12 speed and linkglide IIRC.
Didn’t see that Seth had already posted the build kit in question above.
I like that you can ditch the battery and still have a serviceable bike. Traveling with batteries is a hassle, not all trails allow e-bikes, whilst those aren’t a good enough reason alone to make someone chose this over a different brand (they aren’t cheap certainly) it does help.
I’d be interested to see how the little rear shock holds up. Looks to be pretty short stroke to make space for the motor and battery placement.
I like that you can ditch the battery and still have a serviceable bike. Traveling with batteries is a hassle, not all trails allow e-bikes, whilst those aren’t a good enough reason alone to make someone chose this over a different brand (they aren’t cheap certainly) it does help.
I’d be interested to see how the little rear shock holds up. Looks to be pretty short stroke to make space for the motor and battery placement.
Although a removing the external battery does help make an Ebike ride closer to how a normal bike rides you probably won't do that very often at all. I have. And my Emtb is a good bit lighter than that cotic But I'd ALWAYS have preferred to just be on one if my normal bikes.
Hey Gary,it’s 7pm in CA USA and I’m hungover. Went to work of course,Never let them know you are as such. Just gives them Bullets to put in their Belts to use against you.
Had a good day. As I was just pulling into work,the Radio said, “CA is going tobe giving 2000 Dollar’s for the purchase of a EBike to it’s Residents”. What Avy said? Shit,that’s proper as Fuck no Gary?
Holly,go used Brother,or New if Avy was to get them Funds?
Did not hear the Details,as I am sure I make too much money for such a treat?
Avy
Had a good day. As I was just pulling into work,the Radio said, “CA is going tobe giving 2000 Dollar’s for the purchase of a EBike to it’s Residents”. What Avy said? Shit,that’s proper as Fuck no Gary?
Holly,go used Brother,or New if Avy was to get them Funds?
Did not hear the Details,as I am sure I make too much money for such a treat?
Avy
NEVER GO USED EBIKE!
$2k won't get anything decent. So add funds to their payout.
Simply choose a, reputable motor brand and you'll have a, 2 Yr warranty (worth way more than the saving you'd have made going with a second hand time bomb)
$2k won't get anything decent. So add funds to their payout.
Simply choose a, reputable motor brand and you'll have a, 2 Yr warranty (worth way more than the saving you'd have made going with a second hand time bomb)
I'll also add get one that a reputable bike shop near you sells. Its MUCH easier to get things warrantied when your not having to send 4 emails to 3 different places to get something fixed. Don't ask me how I know.
Don't know if it's different in the US. But here so long as you have the reciept for the bike and it's still within 2 yrs of purchase your motor (and all the electrical parts) warranty issues can be dealt with at any dealer of that brand motor. Same with any issues with components. It's only really the frame you should ever need to deal with the manufacturer. And IME most fdecent btands Ebike frames tend to be far more durable than their normal frames
So how much is:
Decent $
and,
Proper $
Last,what about Brand New close outs,Bad idea?
Avy
That is what I was thinking Toshi,it must be a “certain type of EBike”. Not to mention “must be super poor” to Even qualify. I am poor,though Avy makes to much for a treat.
Glad to hear you got 900 for the Bike. Those Cargo’s are Sweet as Fuck,I have seen them.
Avy
A, "decent" motor, battery and all the controller/wiring/sensors/display/charger etc is around 2k alone. So it stands to reason almost any Ebike around that sort of price will have huge compromises. (but Ebikes are sometimes slashed to ridiculous bargain prices) .
Anything discounted should still have full warranty. That would be my No1 priority.
You know what is Insane,a EBike Top of the Line,is the same price as a Top of the Line non EBike. Like what Gary,14 thousand? A Fucking EBike has a motor. Why does the Top bikes not come down In price?
Same thing as One could by a Mortorcycle,for the price of a Top of the line Bicycle.
Avy
Thanks Brother,I don’t even know if fucking CA will give Avy any money yet? Was doing homework,just in case. I have Always been Top of the Line,Like All us Monkeys here,we take Pride in our Bikes. We may disagree on parts,but most of it is Top Shelf. Yes we have cheap ways and projects,but we roll proper.
Avy is cursed with this 2000 Honda Ody Van that is Known for Electric Problems. The starting of the Van itself. There is a Dam chip in the key which reads another chip. One key is over 400 dollars. I am on my second key,did not pay for it. But there is other electric problems. Anyway,this the second time She won’t start. Everything cranks and sounds beautiful,but she will not start. Sorry,that was off topic but current.
Avy
The problem I had was I bought Vitus bikes with Bafang motors. Then Vitus went tits up. Then the only place to get them in the US went tits up too (Planet Cyclery). I had a battery that died. Contacted Bafang and was told they don't warranty to the end user, only the dealer. I explained my situation and they said the best they could do was sell me a new battery at a discounted price. I'm not too upset because we got the bikes 60% off so the total investment is still really good.
Then main reason I picked this bike was 1)Vitus bikes ride really well and 2)You can get any Bafang part you need. No Shimano shit where if you opened the motor is locks itself or any of that stuff. I love the way this bike rides and plan on keeping it for a long time and part availability is one big benefit. I have a spare display, controller, cranks, crank bolts and wheel sensor now just in case.
There are some crazy deals right now on ebikes. Looking at maybe getting the wife a Salsa Notch. Got to be the cheapest full fat Bosch powered bike available in the US and a dealer in the next town over.