Kind of bumming. It will be fixed but I am again without a ride 
jdcamb
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Broke another bike...
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What kind of bike is it, and what is that that broke?
time for a Yeti !
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The Ellsworth?jdcamb said:Kind of bumming. It will be fixed but I am again without a ride
jdcamb
holy cow that's a lot of breakages - time for a different brand of bike perhaps Jim??
Maybe.... Might be time for a Heckler too. I will be talking to you soon enough..... I need wheels too.....T-Blazer said:
It is a Ellsworth Id. I broke the chainstay......
jdcamb
Bummer, man.
I never cease to be amazed at how many Ellsworth riders keep riding those bikes after they break again and again and again and again... I don't think I've ever known an Ellsworth rider who didn't break their frame actually.
Yeah. They actually make Cannondale look *good*..... well, maybe I'm exaggerating.Echo said:
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Why? Other brands don't break? In the last 4 months I have seen 2 Canondales, a Turner, a Gary Fisher, and a Iron Horse break. I am pretty sure I will break the next bike I get too. It is just a matter of cycles brother...... If you ride it, it will break.......jdcambMMcG said:
I know C-dale has a bad rep, but I beat the snot out of a Jekyll, from endurance racing to trail riding right up to 6 foot drops, and it never complained.SkaredShtles said:Yeah. They actually make Cannondale look *good*..... well, maybe I'm exaggerating.
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I kind of have all my eggs in one basket. I will probably get nothing for it if I sell it. They will fix it. If I could sell it and get a comparable bike I would. It has been for sale for 3 months. I just can't afford another bike right now. Lots of Ellsworth around that haven't broke too......Echo said:
I dunno Jim. You ride a lot, but I've seen you ride and you're not that hard on frames. With your miles and type of riding I would expect you to go through lots of wheels, bottom brackets, cables, brake pads, tires, chains, cassettes, etc... but not frames. You've seen me ride, I do some decent sized stuff and I'm not all that smooth. The only time I ever broke a frame was when I used a cheap Jamis hardtail for trials.jdcamb said:
Well, you don't really know me, but I owned an Ells Isis for 2 years and it was going strong the day it was stolen.Echo said:
It was a good bike, but I'm kinda glad it was ganked. Now I have a purty 575
well i guess you don't know me, but i rode a 2nd hand (bought as demo) joker hard (DH, xc, urban, moab, etc) for over 3 years w/ no cracks. maybe i was just lucky. wouldn't get another one, though. too many horror stories of Tony E.Echo said:
Yeah. I know. They're just an easy target. My Cannondale-bashing is over a decade old.Echo said:
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jdcamb said:
I was just asking a question Jim, nothing more, nothing less. Of course other brands of bikes break - I just thought that since you've broken your Ellsworth's repeatedly that you might be interested in a different brand for a change to see how a different company's bike might hold up for you.
Hey if the Ellsworth does it for ya, then get another one or a replacement and ride the piss out of it some more.
I don't know either. I feel I am pretty smooth rider. I have had the same wheels for 3 years?? I don't do big drops. But I have broken 2 Bridgestones, 2 Diamondback (1 steel, 1 titanium), 3 GT's, and 3 Ellsworths in my riding career. Basically I have broke every bike I have ever owned. If I could find a bike that rides like the Id and I could afford it. I would buy it.....jdcambEcho said:
I don't know about the Bridgestones, but every other brand you named has been, at one time or another, notorious for cracking, and usually through several model years.
Breaking that many bikes means that something is wrong. You're sticking with the wrong companies, or buying the wrong bikes. Once is an accident. Twice is a problem. Three times is unacceptable.
Be honest about your bike needs - if you're trashing frames, perhaps you need to stop buying long legged XC bikes like the Id and start looking into short travel FR frames like a Heckler or even a Bullit with a lightweight build. Santa Cruz might be a good company to go to, since they have a good crash replacement policy and a very diverse model lineup - if you break one frame, you can try another one.
Breaking that many bikes means that something is wrong. You're sticking with the wrong companies, or buying the wrong bikes. Once is an accident. Twice is a problem. Three times is unacceptable.
Be honest about your bike needs - if you're trashing frames, perhaps you need to stop buying long legged XC bikes like the Id and start looking into short travel FR frames like a Heckler or even a Bullit with a lightweight build. Santa Cruz might be a good company to go to, since they have a good crash replacement policy and a very diverse model lineup - if you break one frame, you can try another one.
Yup 3 strikes and your out. I stopped riding GT's just for that very reason. As soon as I am able I will sell the Ellsworth. And I think your right on the long legged XC bike deal. Santa Cruz is a fine company and I really like the Heckler. I also like the Prophet too. So we will see. I may be racing a Canondale if that pans out. But for now my mind is set on a Heckler as the perfect bike for me. I just hate Brake jack though... Every Bullit I have ever rode accelerated like crap and was a dog climbing. I love to climb and any bike I get will have to be a proficient climber. Nothing, I repeat nothing climbs like a Ellsworth.....jdcambbinary visions said:
Must be all that porn star meat weighing you down.
what about looking at an enduro. you can probably find a great deal on new '04s still in stock.
Done any riding on a Horst link style trailbike? An Enduro for instance?jdcamb said:
No I haven't. The bike that interests me the most is the Yeti 575. I can't afford one though. I would like to try the Enduro but they ain't cheap either. Actually that would probably be the perfect bike for me on paper.binary visions said:
Are you stalking me? I am old and balding now so I am sure you would be disappointed. Everything still works and is in the right place though. I just don't get young starlets at the same frequency...... If I am ever in Norcal I will look you up thoughdh girlie said:
neaky: jdcamb
Well, my '01 Joker's still going... Must be the fact that I never get off the rail trails...Echo said:
How come you didn't mention a Hollowpoint Binary?? the new 2005 Mkiiis look to be stellar and I would guess would fit right into Jim's riding style too. They are sold as frame only or there are great values to be had on complete bikes from some sources (and I don't mean Supergo either).
Echo said:
I broke my Dare!!
At least I got a warranty that I could sell.
I have heard many times that Ellsworth is good about honoring their warranty. Sounds like they get lots of practice
Absolutely. I wasn't at all implying that Santa Cruz was the only way to go - in fact, there are many frames on the market that I'm sure would fit his riding style - in fact, if I were to buy a new bike right now, it would definitly be one of the new Iron Horses.MMcG said:
What I was point out with Santa Cruz, though, was their crash replacement policy. Sure, frames that are ridden within normal boundaries should be warrentied, but that's not always the case. The great thing about SC is, if you're prone to breaking bikes (that is, if you're buying bikes that are suitable for you, of course, but still breaking them), even if it's not a warrenty situation, you can still get an inexpensive replacement.
It sounds, though, like an appropriate bike wouldn't be cracking, especially if the same wheelset has been ridden for a few years without any issues.
A MkIII would just be...
- or even a 7 point if you're looking for a little more travel and beef!
Echo said:I have heard many times that Ellsworth is good about honoring their warranty. Sounds like they get lots of practice
Buddy of mine just broke his Truth, Ellsworth hooked him up with a new part but they did tell him the warranty is only good while the product is current, in other words if the latest 05 parts didn't work on his '03 bike he'd be screwed.
From what I've read/heard, that's how they operate. An '01 Truth and an '05 Truth are both Truths, but since the design is a bit different, Tony feels that they are different bikes which gives him the right (in his mind) to charge you.Westy said:
Another reason I'm glad my Isis was stolen is because they don't make it any more. Even though it had a lifetime warranty, if it had broken I'm sure they would have tried to charge me because it wasn't "current" and my warranty replacement would have been, in their eyes, an "upgrade" and not a "replacement".
Thats the inherit problem with all light weight suspensions. If you ride em enough they're gonna break. I saw that break once before but it happened doing danger drop. Ellsworth did warranty it, call sugars out at spencerport hes pretty good at getting Ellsworth to take care of stuff
Yeah. jdcamb should definitely buy a rigid bike.....The Amish said:
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good to hear jpb. Just add in the fact that I rode that frame pretty good for a year before you got it.johnbryanpeters said:Well, my '01 Joker's still going... Must be the fact that I never get off the rail trails...
I paid my dues on hardtails. Over 10 years was enough. I am to old and beatup to ride a hardtail regularly. I want a couchThe Amish said:
I think you need a BMW.