[$tinkle]

Obama shuns G20 summit leaders

WORLD leaders hoping for time with the US president-elect, Barack Obama, during this weekend's G20 will be disappointed after aides announced he would not attend the summit nor have one-on-one meetings with any of the 19 leaders who will be in town.

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There is logic to Senator Obama's method: the president-elect has only just begun security and foreign affairs briefings, which would make it difficult for him to respond in an informed way on many issues.

is this the courage & intellectual curiosity he picked up as a community organizer? sorry, he's missing a great opportunity to hit the ground running on january 20th

 

[Westy]

Meh, Bush is still the President and should still be doing presidenty type stuff.

 

[$tinkle]

it took 8 yrs, but it looks like you'll finally admit bush is presidential material.

rep given

 

[Cant Climb]

Meh, Bush is still the President and should still be doing presidenty type stuff.

Yup, Obama will have people there to gather information.....
Obama is not our president right now.....it's not his place to be there.

He'll try keep busy with other stuff......not too much going right now.

 

[Cant Climb]

it took 8 yrs, but it looks like you'll finally admit bush is presidential material.

rep given

After Obama met with Bush on Monday very little information was released.

One tibit that was "over heard" on the plane back to Chicago...Obama saying, "I won't be spending much time in Washingtion during the transition."

 

[$tinkle]

Yup, Obama will have people there to gather information.....

from article:

There will be no Obama advisers present.

Obama is not our president right now.....it's not his place to be there.

He'll try keep busy with other stuff......not too much going right now.

should he be doing senatorial duties back in ill? what "other stuff" should he be doing? clearing brush in crawford?

i guess i'm thinking: before i start a new job, i'd like to get just a little research done. but, that's how i roll

 

[Westy]

it took 8 yrs, but it looks like you'll finally admit bush is presidential material.

rep given

****, for rep points I'll go so far as to admit that I don't think he is actually mentally retarded.

 

[Cant Climb]

I heard on NPR this AM that Obama will have people "there"....kind of a vague statement....

Does that mean on the premises, hotel lobbys, or in the actual meetings...?

 

[johnbryanpeters]

from article:
should he be doing senatorial duties back in ill? what "other stuff" should he be doing? clearing brush in crawford?

i guess i'm thinking: before i start a new job, i'd like to get just a little research done. but, that's how i roll

Jesus harvey christ.

Let's stop micromanaging for five minutes and do some observation before passing judgment.

 

[Cant Climb]

from article:
should he be doing senatorial duties back in ill? what "other stuff" should he be doing? clearing brush in crawford?

i guess i'm thinking: before i start a new job, i'd like to get just a little research done. but, that's how i roll

Probably working on his behind-the-back dribble....

 

[$tinkle]

Jesus harvey christ.

Let's stop micromanaging for five minutes and do some observation before passing judgment.

i'm glad to see you are unnaturally gracious toward the office of president in this time of transition. seems to me he led a relentless campaign to get elected, and now he's sitting back. it flies in the face of almost every speech he gave about "not letting up"

for someone who ran his campaign on change, it's going to take quite a bit more than someone who got elected for "more of the same" status quo. perhaps he's abiding by "smoke 'em if you got 'em" before going "full court press"?

one can only "hope"

 

[jimmydean]

it took 8 yrs, but it looks like you'll finally admit bush is presidential material.

rep given

No, what he stated was a fact. Bush has never been qualified, but the rules say he is our president until Jan 19.

<edit> Did you not catch the press conference where Obama said we can only have one president at a time? Seriously, let the man get sworn in before screaming about more of the same.

 

[Westy]

Stinkle is right. We will all be better off if Bush just stays in orafice for another 8.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

i'm glad to see you are unnaturally gracious toward the office of president in this time of transition. seems to me he led a relentless campaign to get elected, and now he's sitting back. it flies in the face of almost every speech he gave about "not letting up"

for someone who ran his campaign on change, it's going to take quite a bit more than someone who got elected for "more of the same" status quo. perhaps he's abiding by "smoke 'em if you got 'em" before going "full court press"?

one can only "hope"

My take:

He's trying to keep the maximum amount of distance (on the world stage) from Bush. Figuratively and literally.

And as Martha would say, "That's a good thing."

 

[Cant Climb]

Reportedly Obama is attempting to enjoy the last days of somewhat normal life in Chicago. Choosing to do most of his transition work there.....gone are the days of going out with his daughters on Halloween or casually chauffeuring them around town.

He is going to be surrounded by a small army 24/7 for the next 4 years and beyond....

 

[johnbryanpeters]

i'm glad to see you are unnaturally gracious toward the office of president in this time of transition. seems to me he led a relentless campaign to get elected, and now he's sitting back. it flies in the face of almost every speech he gave about "not letting up"

for someone who ran his campaign on change, it's going to take quite a bit more than someone who got elected for "more of the same" status quo. perhaps he's abiding by "smoke 'em if you got 'em" before going "full court press"?

one can only "hope"

There's no evidence whatsoever that Barack Obama and his staff are "sitting back". From what I can see there's a thoughtful process in place to prepare for and assume the responsibilities of the office.

None of us can at this point have the information to credibly predict whether his administration will do well, be average or screw things up more.

 

[jimmydean]

There's no evidence whatsoever that Barack Obama and his staff are "sitting back". From what I can see there's a thoughtful process in place to prepare for and assume the responsibilities of the office.

None of us can at this point have the information to credibly predict whether his administration will do well, be average or screw things up more.

Dude, he was elected over a week ago! Where's the change?

 

[$tinkle]

There's no evidence whatsoever that Barack Obama and his staff are "sitting back". From what I can see there's a thoughtful process in place to prepare for and assume the responsibilities of the office.

None of us can at this point have the information to credibly predict whether his administration will do well, be average or screw things up more.

first off, i need to make this clear: i recognize obama's wicked smaht, highly motivated, and has the backing of the majority of voters.

he's going to be my president, & i'd like to think he doesn't struggle with naivety. but when he's "focusing on the u.s. economy & eschewing saturday's g20 summit" (which will focus on the global economic crisis), i have to scratch my head.

while he has earned some r&r, i just want him to do some triage & focus on the top 3 items (economy, foreign policy, economy) in the interim.

more reading: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iAHtJU4oNvCXj0edunKaHfjbKUeA

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Dude, he was elected over a week ago! Where's the change?

Open your eyes. The dawn has arisen and the world is now a perfect place.

 

[ohio]

Quit trolling. You know as well as the rest of us that Obama has zero direct power and only influence until he takes office. His direct involvement, let alone presence, in any presidential matters would only be disruptive and weaken any positions that the US might take in any negotiations or discussions. He may not agree with Bush, but on the whole we all still want America to have the strongest position at the table possible.

I'm sure it's partially a matter of him not wanting to sit in the passenger seat and get blamed for the driving, but it's also critical to American power and influence during the transition that it be crystal clear to the world that Bush is still in office and they can't just stall until there's a new admin.

Stick to clever networking of disparate events displayed via cleverly labeled hyperlinks.

 

[$tinkle]

Stick to clever networking of disparate events displayed via cleverly labeled hyperlinks.

i have this tension of being a smart ass with genuine philosophical curiosities.

i guess you can say i'm a mixed breed

 

[Westy]

Quit trolling. You know as well as the rest of us that Obama has zero direct power and only influence until he takes office. His direct involvement, let alone presence, in any presidential matters would only be disruptive and weaken any positions that the US might take in any negotiations or discussions. He may not agree with Bush, but on the whole we all still want America to have the strongest position at the table possible.

I'm sure it's partially a matter of him not wanting to sit in the passenger seat and get blamed for the driving, but it's also critical to American power and influence during the transition that it be crystal clear to the world that Bush is still in office and they can't just stall until there's a new admin.

Stick to clever networking of disparate events displayed via cleverly labeled hyperlinks.

With n8 banned and the likes of vibiker and Curtix too busy stocking up for the impending socialist anarcho-syndicate someone has to carry the stadard. At least $tinko puts some thought into it.

 

[$tinkle]

With n8 banned and the likes of vibiker and Curtix too busy stocking up for the impending socialist anarcho-syndicate someone has to carry the stadard.

regrettably, this is cutting into my conservativeforums 2nd life

 

[DamienC]

From the Washington Post:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/11/12/obama_advisers_but_not_obama_w.html

Obama Advisers Will Keep Tabs on Bush Economic Summit

Updated 3:43 p.m.
By Michael D. Shear
President-elect Barack Obama may not be at President Bush's economic summit with world leaders this weekend, but that doesn't mean he won't know what's going on there.

Today, he tapped two Washington supporters to be his eyes and ears: former Republican Congressman Jim Leach (Iowa) and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who served under Democratic President Bill Clinton. They will be available to meet and talk to the international leaders invited by the president to the summit.

"President Bush should be commended for calling the summit," said Obama Senior Foreign Policy Advisor Denis McDonough. "There is one President at a time in the United States, so the President-elect has asked Secretary Albright and Congressman Leach, an experienced and bipartisan team, to be available meet with and listen to our friends and allies on his behalf."

Obama has declined to attend the summit for fear of sending mixed signals on foreign policy.

Aides declined to provide any details about who the pair will be meeting or when. But they said Albright and Leach would be reporting back to Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden after the summit is over.

 

[$tinkle]

i call bull****; obama's still a sitting senator.

on the foreign relations committee at that.

http://obama.senate.gov/committees/

 

[Samirol]

i call bull****; obama's still a sitting senator.

on the foreign relations committee at that.

http://obama.senate.gov/committees/

Are Dick Luger/Biden attending, since they are the ranking members of the foreign relations committee that Obama is on

 

[ohio]

i call bull****; obama's still a sitting senator.

on the foreign relations committee at that.

http://obama.senate.gov/committees/

You're right. What a lazy ****. So what do you think he's doing now that the campaign is over?

Sittin on the stoop drinkin 40s, I bet.

 

[$tinkle]

Are Dick Luger/Biden attending, since they are the ranking members of the foreign relations committee that Obama is on

not a chance! congress has record approval ratings that attending a summit would only endanger

 

[sanjuro]

How about this:

1. The market is based around consumer confidence. How would if affect this confidence if two voices, who until Nov 4th were direct opposition, spoke for the US?

2. I bet Obama is going his own way when it comes to the economy. I wouldn't associate myself with Bush outside the one visit.

I do think some Obama advisers should be there, and I believe that they are.

 

[JohnE]

I also give Stinkle credit for hanging tough with the RM crew planning the upcoming insurrec, I mean revolou- I mean overthro....ahh screw it.
Good on Stinkle for hanging whilst the local RINOs have bailed.

 

[Defenestrated]

Does the G20 ever get **** done?

 

[sanjuro]

This is why Obama is not going to G20 with Bush:

NEW YORK &#8211; President George W. Bush asserted Thursday that the global financial crisis is "not a failure of the free market" and urged world leaders to adopt modest financial reforms that stop short of the tighter regulations Europeans favor.