[Changleen]

I'm with Google!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2000551,00.html

Google will fight Bush Administration demand for search records

The US Government is taking legal action to gain access to Google’s vast database of internet searches in an historic clash over privacy.

The Bush Administration has asked a federal judge to order the world’s most popular internet search engine to hand over the records of all Google searches for any one-week period, as well as other closely guarded data. The California-based company is to fight the move.

The immediate flashpoint is the Government’s effort to revive an online child pornography law that was struck down by the Supreme Court two years ago.

The US Justice Department requested access to Google’s search records as part of its effort to prove the constitutionality of the 1998 Child Online Protection Act.

The controversial law sought to curb minors’ access to internet pornography by making it a crime to publish material that is "harmful to minors" on the web.

The law was immediately challenged by civil liberties groups and never came into force. It was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court on the grounds that it was unconstitutionally restrictive of free speech.

But the Supreme Court gave the Government a second chance to prove that the law’s proposed criminal penalties would work better to protect children than internet filters or other methods.

The Government’s request for Google data came to light when Justice Department lawyers filed papers in federal court in San Jose, California, revealing that the internet search firm had failed to comply with a subpeona for records in the case.

The Government indicated that other unnamed search engines had already agreed to release the information, but not Google, which runs 46 per cent of all US web searches.

"The production of those materials would be of significant assistance to the government’s preparation of its defence of the constitutionality of this important statute," the government lawyers wrote.

Nicole Wong, Google’s associate general counsel, countered: "Google is not a party to this lawsuit, and the demand for the information is overreaching."

 

[ohio]

I bet he doesn't even care about this one, he's just looking forward to being able to point to his critics and say they "support child porn"...

 

[Changleen]

Google should give them the search results for the week before they launched... Hey it does say "Any given week"...

 

[N8 v2.0]

I bet he doesn't even care about this one, he's just looking forward to being able to point to his critics and say they "support child porn"...

...well...???

 

[ohio]

...well...???

well what?

 

[Changleen]

He's saying that Google do support child porn by allowing a free search engine. Funnily enough Repubs also criticise Google and Yahoo for capitulating to Chinese government rules. So which is it?

 

[ohio]

He's saying that Google do support child porn by allowing a free search engine. Funnily enough Repubs also criticise Google and Yahoo for capitulating to Chinese government rules. So which is it?

Don't think for him. I wanted to hear his answer.

 

[Changleen]

I think I just saved you a long wait..

 

[Reactor]

. I wanted to hear his answer.

You Won't.

 

[MikeD]

Can't you already see the verbal shell game here? The law isn't about CHILD PORN, it's about children's ACCESS to porn online!! Huge difference...and one is more of a legal, political issue whereas the other one is a personal or parenting issue.

 

[N8 v2.0]

YAHOO, AOL, MSN Complied with Justice Dept 'Search Result' Request...

 

[ohio]

Can't you already see the verbal shell game here? The law isn't about CHILD PORN, it's about children's ACCESS to porn online!! Huge difference...and one is more of a legal, political issue whereas the other one is a personal or parenting issue.

That's exactly what I was referring to. Of course it isn't about Child Porn... but do you think that matters?

The wire-tap debate wasn't about wire-tapping. Did that stop the Repubs from claiming that it was?

 

[MikeD]

ummm...yay small government?

 

[Transcend]

Google will win. Soon Google will own the Us Gov't anyways.

The Gov't can't leverage private files simply because they are too lazy to do their own research. That is preposterous. Every grad student on earth does their own research, what's Bush's excuse?

(Besides the fact that he's an alcoholic, coke addict, war mongering buffoon).

 

[blue]

I think if Bush forces Google to surrender, you may have a revolution under way...

There's a difference between attacking Iraq and Google...most of the world loves Google.

 

[Reactor]

Google will win. Soon Google will own the Us Gov't anyways.

The Gov't can't leverage private files simply because they are too lazy to do their own research. That is preposterous. Every grad student on earth does their own research, what's Bush's excuse?

(Besides the fact that he's an alcoholic, coke addict, war mongering buffoon).

Don't forget he was a D- college student who was allowed to graduate because of his father, a cheerleader, and his dad helped him to dodge the draft, O and he was involved in the S&L scandal. He's never had to do anything for his self or stand on this own two feet.

The case is preposterous, the subpoena is a Easter egg hunt, and isn't involved in any current case before the court. USDOJ is going down on this one.

 

[maxyedor]

It's well known that you can find any info. that you want on Google, so Bush just needs to search for "BinLaden's cave" on google maps. The war is over.

 

[alwaysbroncin19]

It's well known that you can find any info. that you want on Google, so Bush just needs to search for "BinLaden's cave" on google maps. The war is over.

Those self-indulged a$$es at google would fight that too! BTW what's the big deal with trying to help stop child porn anyway? Privacy? And hey, Transcend, what's your solution?

 

[MikeD]

Those self-indulged a$$es at google would fight that too! BTW what's the big deal with trying to help stop child porn anyway? Privacy? And hey, Transcend, what's your solution?

Nothing's wrong with helping to stop child porn. That's why the government is expending lots and lots of money and the time and effort of many, many federal agents to crack down on it and the sleazeballs behind it.

However, if you'd been reading, you'd have noted what was said above... The law is looking to limit children's ACCESS to 'harmful material' online. They're not trying to stop exploitation and sex-slavery, they're trying to prevent little Billy from looking at ta-tas online. One is a crime...the other is essentially a personal and/or parenting issue.

And since a traditional, more libertarian conservative position would want the government OUT of people's lives and people's personal choices, I find it interesting that the new breed of conservatism chooses to impose government where it finds it ideologically convenient.

 

[alwaysbroncin19]

Nothing's wrong with helping to stop child porn. That's why the government is expending lots and lots of money and the time and effort of many, many federal agents to crack down on it and the sleazeballs behind it.

However, if you'd been reading, you'd have noted what was said above... The law is looking to limit children's ACCESS to 'harmful material' online. They're not trying to stop exploitation and sex-slavery, they're trying to prevent little Billy from looking at ta-tas online. One is a crime...the other is essentially a personal and/or parenting issue.

And since a traditional, more libertarian conservative position would want the government OUT of people's lives and people's personal choices, I find it interesting that the new breed of conservatism chooses to impose government where it finds it ideologically convenient.

It's easy to explain when the leaders of this country know that the childrens parents obviously won't put their hand in the mix for fear of offending their children's rights.

 

[Changleen]

Those self-indulged a$$es at google...

What? Are you stupid? How are they self-indulgent?

 

[Changleen]

It's easy to explain when the leaders of this country know that the childrens parents obviously won't put their hand in the mix for fear of offending their children's rights.

So you, and the rest of the US need GW to make all your moral and ethical decisions for you? Good patriot.

 

[blue]

What? Are you stupid? How are they self-indulgent?

One of the only corporations I have a few shreds of respect for in the way they do business, their guiding philosophy, and how they treat consumers.

 

[Changleen]

One of the only corporations I have a few shreds of respect for in the way they do business, their guiding philosophy, and how they treat consumers.

Exactly.