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N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
Some Christians See 'Passion' as Evangelism Tool
NYTimes.com | 5 Feb 04 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN

For years it was an article of faith for many Christians that the most powerful vehicle for bringing nonbelievers to Jesus was a Billy Graham crusade.

Now, they expect it will be a Mel Gibson movie.

Three weeks before the release of "The Passion of the Christ," a graphic portrayal of the torture and crucifixion of Jesus, Christians nationwide are busy preparing to use it in an immense grass-roots evangelistic campaign.

Mr. Gibson, who produced, directed and largely financed the film, has tried to stoke their enthusiasm by screening it the past two months for at least 10,000 pastors and leaders of Christian ministries and media. Many emerged proclaiming it a searing, life-changing experience.

Now those leaders are buying blocks of tickets, encouraging church members to invite their "unsaved" friends and co-workers and producing television commercials that start with scenes from the movie and finish with a pitch for their churches.

"I don't know of anything since the Billy Graham crusades that has had the potential of touching so many lives," said Morris H. Chapman, president of the executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination. "It's like the Lord somehow laid in our lap something that could be a great catalyst for spiritual awakening in this nation."

The movie opens on Ash Wednesday, Feb. 25, and Christian groups are already distributing merchandise to capitalize on the moment. There are lapel pins in Aramaic, the language of much of the film, and "witnessing cards" to give those who ask about the pin; door hangers for the neighbors; one million tracts asking moviegoers to "Take a moment right now and say a prayer like this," and a CD-ROM for teenagers that features a downloadable picture of a nine-inch nail like those that pinned Jesus to the cross.

Although Mr. Gibson is Roman Catholic and the movie is replete with Catholic touches, like the Stations of the Cross and the centrality of Mary, influential Pentecostal and evangelical leaders have embraced it anyway, seeing its value as a tool in evangelism. Evangelical Christians account for 30 percent to 40 percent of the American population, and many of them have recently been hearing their leaders declare that the nation is primed for a return of the ecstatic Great Awakenings that moved Americans in the 18th and 19th centuries to convert to Christianity in droves.

Mr. Gibson's film company has hired several marketing firms experienced in reaching Christian audiences, including the publicist for the Rev. Billy Graham. But much of the promotion was initiated by an assortment of ministry agencies, churches and individual Christians.

One of these, the American Tract Society in Garland, Tex., proclaims on its Web site that the movie is "one of the greatest opportunities for evangelism in 2,000 years." Daniel Southern, the society's president, said his group had produced two tracts tied into the movie, and expected one to sell over one million copies. The only involvement of Mr. Gibson's company, Mr. Southern said, was in granting permission to use a movie photograph on the cover.

"This is an unprecedented opportunity that the average Christian needs to seize," Mr. Southern said. "You'll run into people at work who've seen the movie, and you can say, `Have you ever thought about why Christ had to die?' And then you can say: `This tract has one take on that and I'd like to share it with you.' And you hand them the tract."

Teen Mania, an evangelical group that holds youth crusades in stadiums, says at least 3,000 leaders of church youth groups have bought CD-ROM kits that instruct young people in how to use the film to deepen their own faith and bring their friends to accept Christ.

The film is rated R because of the violent scourging and crucifixion of Jesus that occupies much of its two hours. Ron Luce, president of Teen Mania, says children would benefit from seeing it, and the CD-ROM supplies information to persuade parents to allow their children to attend.

"This isn't just violence for violence's sake," Mr. Luce said. "This is what really happened, what it would have been like to have been there in person to see Jesus crucified."

Mr. Gibson invested $25 million of his own into the movie and has told supporters that he regards it as a spiritual calling. He has suggested that he is aware of the film's potential use in evangelism. In a promotional brochure for the movie given to 4,500 participants at a recent "Global Pastors Network" conference in Orlando, Fla., Mr. Gibson says, "I hope the film has the power to evangelize." He has told screeners in churches that on the movie set, he witnessed agnostics and Muslims converting to Christianity.

A spokesman for Mr. Gibson, Alan Nierob, explained the outreach efforts as more in the interest of marketing than evangelism. He said that although "The Passion of the Christ" was being released on about 2,000 screens by Newmarket Films, it did not have a large marketing budget to pay for focus groups and advertising.

"We don't have that luxury here," Mr. Nierob said. "So you've got to do what you can to get the film out there, get supporters, get word of mouth. That's really the grass-roots approach." Mr. Nierob likened it to the word-of-mouth and Internet buzz that turned "The Blair Witch Project" into a sleeper hit.

Mr. Gibson's company held early screenings of the film in churches led by pastors renowned in Christian circles for pioneering evangelization techniques. They include the Rev. Bill Hybels of Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Ill.; Bishop Eddie L. Long of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta; and the Rev. Rick Warren at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., author of the best seller "The Purpose-Driven Life."

Mr. Hybels was host to 4,500 viewers at a screening in his church last month, and said in an interview that he had invited a "sample group" of a dozen "nonchurchgoing community leaders and businessmen" to gauge their reaction. He said all 12 reported that the film "piqued their curiosity" about Jesus and caused some to go home and dig out Bibles they had not read for years.

Although the film has been praised by some Roman Catholics and promoted on some Catholic Web sites, Catholic clergy members and bishops have not latched onto it as a tool for church-building as the evangelicals have.

The same brutality in the film that has caused such an emotional response among many Christian filmgoers has alarmed some Jewish leaders who say it could stoke animosity toward Jews.

Christian supporters of the film say it merely adheres to the Bible. But some Jewish leaders say that it distorts the Scriptures and that they are alarmed at the prospect of the movie's being accepted as gospel.

David M. Elcott, director for interreligious affairs for the American Jewish Committee, said, "It would be a deep disappointment to the Jewish community if this movie would become the vehicle for teaching Christianity, even within Christian settings."

Christian leaders predict that the film will have a long afterlife on tape and DVD for use in homes, churches and Bible study classes. Some cautioned that the film's graphic brutality would limit its usefulness with youngsters and in some cultures.

But others said that missionaries would eventually adopt it as a conversion tool much like "Jesus," a 1970's film distributed by the group Campus Crusade for Christ. That film has been translated into more than 800 languages and shown in hundreds of countries.
 

El Jefe

Dr. Phil Jefe
Nov 26, 2001
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OC in SoCal
So let me get this straight- kids shouldn't see depictions of realistic inner-city minority struggles and issues, but viewing graphic depictions of a crucifiction is OK? Sorry, it's so tough to know what's good and bad for kids these days... :rolleyes:

Funny. I love how the 'moral majority' wants kids protected from rated R language and violence, but when it suits them, the violence is justified and should be seen by kids. What a load of shiite.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
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Denver
transcript from the Outdoor Life network...

Fisherman 1: Look over there, in the weeds... a jew-fish!
#2: Quick, bait that hook!

Announcer: Too bad ladies and gentlemen, it appears the jew-fish isn't biting today. Tune in next time when we go after the Bewilderbeast :D
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
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The Natural State
*token conservative Christian pops his head in*

:)

oops, wrong thread. umm, y'all go on like I wasn't here.

*backs out slowly*

(BTW - I'm looking forward to seeing the movie, but I'm sure that doesn't surprise you guys)
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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TN
Originally posted by El Jefe
So let me get this straight- kids shouldn't see depictions of realistic inner-city minority struggles and issues, but viewing graphic depictions of a crucifiction is OK? Sorry, it's so tough to know what's good and bad for kids these days... :rolleyes:

Funny. I love how the 'moral majority' wants kids protected from rated R language and violence, but when it suits them, the violence is justified and should be seen by kids. What a load of shiite.

You mean to say you dont believe there's a difference between Schindler's List and Terminator 2?:rolleyes:
 

bikeCOLORADO

Chimp
May 9, 2003
98
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Colorado Springs, USA!
Intolerance and hate? Is this backwards?

Would you be so openly hateful, disrespectful and slanderous towards a historical account of Mohomed, Budha, Martin Luther King Jr. or some Homosexual person (maybe "Philadelphia")??

Why is it Politically Correct and accepted to bash Christians?

- 1 John 3:13 - Do not be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.
- John 15:19 - If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

It amazes me still how true scripture rings true time after time.

Try to keep in mind that this is something that I and many other people BELIEVE IN. This is our truth, our hope, our life. I know that many "Christians" have portrayed the very thing we stand for in a very stupid (and religious) way. My faith is not about intolerance, hate, fear...it's also not about trying to MAKE you believe it either!

It's about following the ways and teachings of Jesus Christ - if you find that appealing, awesome. If not - don't bash me for it, just respect it for what it is.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
3,105
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The Natural State
Originally posted by bikeCOLORADO


Why is it Politically Correct and accepted to bash Christians?
Interesting............

QUOTE]Originally posted by bikeCOLORADO
My faith is not about intolerance, hate, fear...it's also not about trying to MAKE you believe it either!

It's about following the ways and teachings of Jesus Christ - if you find that appealing, awesome. If not - don't bash me for it, just respect it for what it is.
[/QUOTE]

Thanks Bike for articulating that, as one of the other token Christians I appreciate your input.

Peace be with you my brother.............
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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149
The Cleft of Venus
Not to bash, but a lot of the ill will felt by some towards 'christians' is largley due to a lot of things 'christians' have done to bring it on themselves.

I might see the movie because I like historical/historical fiction flicks.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
3,105
5
The Natural State
Originally posted by N8

I might see the movie because I like historical/historical fiction flicks.
I understand, we ('Christians') do a wonderful job of shooting ourselves in the foot as it were.

From every thing I have read, and seen in the trailers it is suppose to be very accurate (Biblially speaking), which is cool. At one time there was not even going to be subtitles (the whole movie is in Latin and Aramaic) which I thought was very cool.
 

bikeCOLORADO

Chimp
May 9, 2003
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Colorado Springs, USA!
N8 - I am all too painfully aware of how many people calling themselves "Christians" have fouled the image and the very word "Christian". I don't take that as a flame at all - that is the blunt honest truth and I'd discuss that with you all day long.

Just as with any other "clique" of humanity - it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the image for the rest.

Are ALL Homosexuals in your face, flaunting it with outrageous and flagrant public displays as in provocative gay rights parades? NO.
Could it be that the vast majority are in caring, loving and PRIVATE relationships? YES

So many stinking public figures in the name of "Christianity" HAVE acted like fools, acted like whackos - turned out to BE fools, falling for power, glory, money, whatever it doesn't matter. The fact is that they've tarnished the true image of what my faith means to me.

On their behalf...I'm sorry for how badly Christianity has been protrayed to the world in general. I hesitate to call myself "Christian" - simply due to how tarnished that label has become.

My faith is in Jesus Christ. I'm a follower of Jesus Christ, trying daily to follow his example. Am I perfect...heck no! I'm a knucklehead just like any of the rest of you. I do know through my faith that there is something worthy and rigteous above and beyond my own will and my own humanity.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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Originally posted by El Jefe
What a load of shiite.
nice.
you dirty kuffar.

i think someone outta be riverdanced with golf shoes for handing out tracts at work. that's stupid. "here, let me love you by making you read this inspired work of marketing."

just in case anyone has been sleeping, i'm a practicing believer, and making someone stare at a screen in a room with weaping people ain't the path to salvation, last time i checked.

certainly, this film is food for thought, but not bread alone.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus
Originally posted by $tinkle
nice.


....and making someone stare at a screen in a room with weaping people ain't the path to salvation, last time i checked.
:eek:
Tell that to the followers of the Matrix Trilogy!

:confused:









:p
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Originally posted by N8
:eek:
Tell that to the followers of the Matrix Trilogy!

:confused:

:p
Trilogy? They only made one movie and it was awesome. I hope they make a trilogy someday. No. NO! They didn't make a trilogy yet. Stop it.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
3,105
5
The Natural State
Originally posted by $tinkle
i think someone outta be riverdanced with golf shoes for handing out tracts at work. that's stupid. "here, let me love you by making you read this inspired work of marketing."
I certainly don't agree with that approach to sharing your faith. Christians are called to be Jesus' literal hands and feet here on earth........so what did Jesus do? He addressed peoples needs, He gave sacraficially to them, He loved them unconditionally.

I saw a cool t-shirt years ago it said on the front "Share Jesus" on the back is says "Use words if necessary". So often Christians don't do that, they just use words and not love.

Originally posted by $tinkle
just in case anyone has been sleeping, i'm a practicing believer, and making someone stare at a screen in a room with weaping people ain't the path to salvation, last time i checked.
I don't think anyone (that I'm aware of) is asserting that this movie is the "path to salvation". It could be a powerful way to deliever the message though.

Originally posted by $tinkle
certainly, this film is food for thought, but not bread alone.
I don't think anyone is claiming (that I'm aware of) that this movie is a "substitute" for God's Word.
 

ummbikes

Don't mess with the Santas
Apr 16, 2002
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Stinkle other than fact you like Republicans I think our shared belief ratio may be up to 99.3%.

Have you read Wild at Heart by John Eldredge? I feel it is a worthy read for any all Christian men.

Okay, back to slinging poo and bashing Bush for me.:devil:

BC and Andyman you can check out the book too, I guess...:p
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
Originally posted by ummbikes
Stinkle other than fact you like Republicans I think our shared belief ratio may be up to 99.3%.

Have you read Wild at Heart by John Eldredge? I feel it is a worthy read for any all Christian men.

Okay, back to slinging poo and bashing Bush for me.:devil:

BC and Andyman you can check out the book too, I guess...:p
dude! that's one of my top 5 books of all time! Dare to desire is a good read as well.
john lives on the west side of town here. neat fella.