some VERY good points, most of which hadn't crossed my mind - in bold for tl;dr
http://gizmodo.com/5841675/why-netflix-just-cut-itself-in-half
Bye bye Netflix
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They seriously couldn't have done that before? They have all of that information, and if they can't get a decent deal with a studio now, what makes anyone think that they'll be able to get that deal in the future? They know exactly who's watching what and how often. Just because subscribers had DVDs lumped into the service as well, that doesn't change the fact that Netflix knew that 147 people had streamed Switchblade Sisters (1975) and yet Netflix had to pay paying $xxxxxx/year for that right (guessing). If Netflix couldn't negotiate a better deal before, they're going to be just as screwed now.JK's article said:
the studios would argue that they still had access to the service, despite not actually using it. this way, that argument is null.
Nice...so now I have two companies to do the same thing I was getting with one. Thanks for making life easier than it needs to be. 
When AT&T would separate mobile and home service and then merge, and then split, I finally got tired of separate billing on something that was already seamless and dumped them all together.
Once I'm done streaming "Flashpoint", Netflix can kiss my ass.
Life needn't be so complicated.
When AT&T would separate mobile and home service and then merge, and then split, I finally got tired of separate billing on something that was already seamless and dumped them all together.
Once I'm done streaming "Flashpoint", Netflix can kiss my ass.
Life needn't be so complicated.
so YOU're the person who watches that show. It's so...canadian.
I watch Rookie Blue too. If I'm ever in need of a different woman, she will be a Canadian cop.
i secretly watch Stick It because of her.I watch Rookie Blue too. If I'm ever in need of a different woman, she will be a Canadian cop.
She is hot enough that I was hoping everyone else hated her.i secretly watch Stick It because of her.
now that we're buying a house, I watch a lot of HGTV. Why is it so canadian, eh? Everybody on that show is canadian, hey. They even have two canadian guys picking out america's next top handyman guy. I don't get it.
This.
This is a company basically build on IT, and they can't pull out the data they need without splitting the company up? That's total bull****. They are either incompetent or lying their asses off while they try to cash out.
did you not see my previous post on this? it has nothing to do with their ability to pull and present the data. It's because the studios (content providers) don't care about how many people USE the service, but about how many people have ACCESS to the service (regardless of whether or not they're using it).
yep. and with this info, theyll have better info to negotiate with
Sure, but that's the inability of Netflix to negotiate with an obstinate partner, like Dante pointed out.
That's not going to change, the studios are going to come up with some other reason to not license. Sony will probably come out with their own proprietary streaming piece of **** that only works on the PS3.
all things considered, they do pretty well against the studios given they carved the path for this business model.
so you have used qrocity
No, I'm just familiar with Sony's horrific business ideas.
20-25 years ago, Sony was THE solid consumer electronics brand. If you wanted fancy and still Japanese, you went Denon or Pioneer, but Sony was like Toyota. Every house had something Sony, almost like Apple now.
The big problem with Sony vs. Apple is that when Sony does something proprietary, it sucks donkey balls from a user perspective...
MS didnt stink. it was just another memory format that didnt survive. CF is going that way now too
Xplod. lolz
It was proprietary but it offered no advantage to the end-user. You can't do much worse than that.
Yeah, but CF had a really good run. MS, not so much.
Actually, now that I think about it, Olympus can lick my taint with their stupid xD cards too. Thank God they didn't saddle their new (and sweet) little mirrorless ones with that.
its as proprietary as SD, XD or CF is/was...it was just only used by Sony and one other comapny IIRC. you were still able to put any type of file on it just like the other cards.
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I terminated my account a while back, just got a nice note (i.e., mass email) from the CEO, and sent this reply:
Dear Reed:
Thanks for your kind note, but you've lost me as a customer. You may see your new approach as a beneficial change for the future. What your (former) customer sees is a price increase, more complication, and less integration.
I am one of those people who kept their account and paid automatically every month even though I sometimes had nothing in my line up and no movies at home. For $10 a month I was willing to let it be even though I knew that from time to time I was wasting a bit of cash. However, the news of your misguided approach was enough to convince my procrastinating butt to terminate my account. So, not only are you not getting your increased rates from me, you are not even getting the $10 a month that was apparently not enough for you and your greedy colleagues.
Best wishes!
Dear Reed:
Thanks for your kind note, but you've lost me as a customer. You may see your new approach as a beneficial change for the future. What your (former) customer sees is a price increase, more complication, and less integration.
I am one of those people who kept their account and paid automatically every month even though I sometimes had nothing in my line up and no movies at home. For $10 a month I was willing to let it be even though I knew that from time to time I was wasting a bit of cash. However, the news of your misguided approach was enough to convince my procrastinating butt to terminate my account. So, not only are you not getting your increased rates from me, you are not even getting the $10 a month that was apparently not enough for you and your greedy colleagues.
Best wishes!
Greedy colleagues?
try greedy studios chief
so you replied to a mass email?
well played sir
Reply to all?
You printed it out, wiped your ****ty ass with it, and then sent it back to them in red Netlfix envelope, I hope.
If NFLX was a value at $155, it's even *more* of a value now... Down another 10% to $130 and the P/E is at a slightly more reasonable 32. This is brutal.
if it gets below $100 i'll buy a single share just to spite you
No, I replied to a personal note from the CEO. Because he felt it was important to speak directly to me. Because he values my business and my opinion. And because I, of course, am special.
Hey wait a minute...
If Dust To Glory ever gets taken off of watch instantly, I'm out.
Glad this thread came up. I went on and noticed that my rates are going up in a few days. Lowered my pkg from 3 disks to 2 disks. I'll now be getting the 2 for about the same price I used to get three.
Silly... It isn't like I'm a big movie watcher, so I'll still have the same number of movies sent in per month.
Silly... It isn't like I'm a big movie watcher, so I'll still have the same number of movies sent in per month.
So you buying NFLX? It could be considered quite cheap if you're predicting explosive growth...
edit: From the smartmoney article I linked to earlier (although that was when the stock price was ~209, as opposed to 169 where it is now):
If it was a deal at 169, is it even *more* of a deal at 122?
Hahahah Netflix can't make up their mind. Bye bye Quikster
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/netflix-abandons-plan-to-rent-dvds-on-qwikster/
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/netflix-abandons-plan-to-rent-dvds-on-qwikster/
"Pretty Damn Spectacular!"
If it was a deal at 169, is it even *more* of a deal at 122?
Someone's going to be pissed when they wake up tomorrow.