[Silver]

http://www.theprovince.com/Vancouver+caught+tape+shoving+Downtown+Eastside+woman+with+video/3309998/story.html

Watch the video there.

So, anyone want to defend that officer's actions? MikeD, maybe the video doesn't tell the whole story? Manimal, maybe you can tell us about the constant stress the guy is under?

At least he didn't taser her. That was nice of him. Give the man a medal.

And, since police only adhere to the highest professional standards, I'm sure the other two officers immediately filed a report about the incident documenting the assault. Right?

 

[MMike]

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3493025&postcount=140

 

[rockofullr]

Can we all just agree not to start a new thread every time a cop screws up?

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3493025&postcount=140

Oh and be glad you are not in Egypt.

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Egyptian-cops-beat-man-to-death-20100611

 

[Silver]

Can we all just agree not to start a new thread every time a cop screws up?

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3493025&postcount=140

Oh and be glad you are not in Egypt.

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Egyptian-cops-beat-man-to-death-20100611

I just wanted to see if we could get an action committed by a police officer that everyone agreed on was not defensible. Didn't want to muddy the waters with the general thread.

 

[rockofullr]

werd

I just can't help but feel that the PAWN forum is turning into the Fthepopo forum.

I enjoy having people with different viewpoints on here otherwise what's the point? But if we keep harping on this subject I think that all of our law enforcement friends will get the wrong idea and leave us to be liberal hippies on our own.

 

[Silver]

werd

I just can't help but feel that the PAWN forum is turning into the Fthepopo forum.

I enjoy having people with different viewpoints on here otherwise what's the point? But if we keep harping on this subject I think that all of our law enforcement friends will get the wrong idea and leave us to be liberal hippies on our own.

I just want to see if there is any common basis to work from.

I'm not trolling either, I'm genuinely curious to find out if everyone can agree on this or not.

 

[MikeD]

Whether I'm convinced, in light of all evidence available to me, the cop is an asshole and did something wrong? Yeah, although that's after there's been ample time for any other exculpatory details to come to the fore.

Whether the video tells the whole story in and of itself? Never. The disparity between a single witness viewpoint (or the views of 10 cameras simultaneously recording from a distance) and the perceptions of a participant in a given incident is far too great. Other viewpoints and evidence may corroborate a video, or may refute what it purports to show, but they need to be considered.

And now that I have bandwidth being back in the land of the big PX, I can watch the vids. That vid shows the cop pushing her. Could have been justified. Doubt it was, but if she'd said, "I'm going to kill you, pig" as she brushed past, he's justified in taking her to the ground like that, whether crippled, able, male, female, young, old. Subsequent reaction doesn't make me think that's what happened, as there'd probably be an immediate handcuffing, etc. But you can't know it from the video entirely.

I'm not defending cops; I'm just for looking at a situation in its totality, whatever side of the fence you're on.

 

[jimmydean]

Put that bitch in her place! Don't step unless you come with a sandwich.

 

[Silver]

Whether I'm convinced, in light of all evidence available to me, the cop is an asshole and did something wrong? Yeah, although that's after there's been ample time for any other exculpatory details to come to the fore.

Whether the video tells the whole story in and of itself? Never. The disparity between a single witness viewpoint (or the views of 10 cameras simultaneously recording from a distance) and the perceptions of a participant in a given incident is far too great. Other viewpoints and evidence may corroborate a video, or may refute what it purports to show, but they need to be considered.

And now that I have bandwidth being back in the land of the big PX, I can watch the vids. That vid shows the cop pushing her. Could have been justified. Doubt it was, but if she'd said, "I'm going to kill you, pig" as she brushed past, he's justified in taking her to the ground like that, whether crippled, able, male, female, young, old. Subsequent reaction doesn't make me think that's what happened, as there'd probably be an immediate handcuffing, etc. But you can't know it from the video entirely.

I'm not defending cops; I'm just for looking at a situation in its totality, whatever side of the fence you're on.

So, take the guy out of his uniform. Pretend he's a fratboy walking down the street with a couple of his buddies.

You still feel the same way? Honestly?

 

[4xBoy]

I will never agree with the unwashed masses.

 

[MMike]

So, take the guy out of his uniform. Pretend he's a fratboy walking down the street with a couple of his buddies.

You still feel the same way? Honestly?

Good analogy....."frat boy". That's pretty apt.

 

[MikeD]

So, take the guy out of his uniform. Pretend he's a fratboy walking down the street with a couple of his buddies.

You still feel the same way? Honestly?

I'd sure be skeptical--as I am with this cop--but I'd have to ask that question of him and/or at least the witnesses before coming to an opinion.

The camera doesn't show, for example (theoretically) that this same homeless woman clawed him in the face or spit on him last week when he walked through the same spot. Or threw feces in his face. Maybe he told her to stay away, with good reason, and she didn't, and his action was appropriate given circumstances unknown to us.

 

[rockofullr]

I just want to see if there is any common basis to work from.

I'm not trolling either, I'm genuinely curious to find out if everyone can agree on this or not.

The camera doesn't show, for example (theoretically) that this same homeless woman clawed him in the face or spit on him last week when he walked through the same spot. Or threw feces in his face. Maybe he told her to stay away, with good reason, and she didn't, and his action was appropriate given circumstances unknown to us.

Silver: I think we have your answer. No, we will never agree on issues concerning popo nonos.

MikeD: Are you this skeptical of everything? What proof would be sufficient to convince you?

 

[MikeD]

jesus titty****ing christ.

 

[Silver]

Silver: I think we have your answer. No, we will never agree on issues concerning popo nonos.

Oui, c'est vrai.

 

[stevew]

Good analogy....."frat boy". That's pretty apt.

so she was a sorority girl?

spare the rod and spoil the child and all that?

never question a mothers discipline?

 

[ohio]

I'm trying to figure out whether the phrase "popo nono" reminds me more of "yoko ono" or "ono pupu"

 

[$tinkle]

and the beat goes on...

Police gun down rampaging pregnant cow at California State Fair

since this is CA, connor's law may apply in the death of the unborn