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Canada may sue UK over 2nd-hand sub purchase

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To parphrase Tom Hanks in A Leauge of their Own: There's no suing in international arms sales!



Canada may sue over its second-hand submarines
scotsman | CRAIG BROWN


Canadian defence minister Bill Graham, right, visits HMCS Chicoutimi.

CANADA’S defence minister has refused to rule out suing the British government over the purchase of four second-hand submarines.

Bill Graham, speaking in Glasgow yesterday, said no decision on potential legal action would be taken until the facts surrounding a fire on board the submarine HMCS Chicoutimi last Tuesday - which killed the crew member Lieutenant Chris Saunders - were established.

He said: "I’m not ruling out any single thing. I’m certainly not going to comment on the likelihood of anything taking place until we have established the facts. Once we have the facts, we can all make our decisions.

"We’re a great ally of the UK. We work together on many, many fronts, and we will work this out as friends do."

His comments came as Captain Luc Pelletier, the boat’s commanding officer, described to a packed press conference, also in Glasgow, the moments when the fire broke out.

"The smoke had nowhere to go and in one or two seconds the section where the fire was, was totally black," he said. "Where I was standing, I had a torch and I still couldn’t see a thing."

He said that the submarine’s crew, unable to see the flames, had been forced to fight the fire by sensing the direction of the heat.

"Once the fire was out, we had to tackle the problem of being able to clear the smoke," he said. "At that time, Lt Saunders was being evacuated to another area."

Capt Pelletier said that he saw the lieutenant later and that the officer had been breathing without the aid of an oxygen mask. "Lt Saunders had been in one of the compartments where we had the fire. He tried to do his best to do the things he needed to, but was overcome by smoke in a fraction of a second."

The captain said the officer had been speaking to the crew just minutes before being air-lifted to safety, and he had not known about the lieutenant’s death until later.

Capt Pelletier added that two other injured crew members were recovering well in hospital in Ireland.

Mr Graham visited the stricken vessel yesterday at Faslane naval base, to where it was towed over the weekend with 54 crew members aboard, five days after the blaze.

The diesel-powered boat, one of four submarines that Ottawa bought from Britain in 1998, underwent extensive repairs in this country. However, HMCS Chicoutimi caught fire shortly after leaving the Clyde for Canada.

A total of nine Canadian crewmen were injured during the incident.

Mr Graham stressed he had not come to Britain to demand compensation from Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, whom he was due to meet later yesterday.
 

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Whilst Canada chooses to purchase used diesel subs from the UK's decommissioned moth-ball fleet which were to be used to assert Canada's territorial claims against trespassing US subs, in an ironic twist...

Germany backs nuclear subs for Israel
WorldNetDaily.Com | Posted: September 10| Aaron Klein

Will held Jewish state acquire 2 new boats, modernize 3 others

Germany said yesterday it will help Israel acquire two nuclear-capable submarines and modernize three older vessels amid escalating tensions between Iran and Israel over Iran's planned construction of several nuclear reactors.

"We are of course ready to help Israel's acquisition, and support it. ... The exact details now need to be clarified in a working group of both ministries," German Defense Minister Peter Struck said in an interview with Handelsblatt newspaper.

Struck also said Germany planned to accelerate the purchase of four new frigates for its own use.

Germany financed and supplied Israel with three submarines in the 1990s and said his country was examining how to facilitate a deal for the new boats.

The submarines, which could carry two nuclear warheads, could be used as a deterrent against Iran, which is going ahead with plans to build several nuclear facilities despite American and Israeli pressure to halt construction.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Iran recently announced it may decide to pre-empt an Israeli or American strike against its reactors with an attack against the Jewish state or U.S. interests in the Middle East. The ayatollahs have also gone to great lengths to warn that Iran can "hit anywhere in Israel" with its upgraded version of the Shahab-3 medium-range ballistic missile.
 

ohio

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Well Canada probably claimed JRA, when clearly they were doing big drops to flat.
 

MikeD

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Hey, at least they didn't buy the second-hand Polish subs...the ones with the faulty screen doors...
 

Changleen

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Well, the UK navy used that sub for ages with no problem... I think the Canadians were not paying attention in training.
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