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Cane creek airshock showdown

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Sandwich, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. Killingtonvt

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    When I weighed the Inline and the CS last summer there was a 176g difference between the two in the 200mm x 57mm, with our 22.2mmx8mm hardware.
     

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  2. Jm_

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    Got a Monarch Plus RC3 Debonair on the way for the E29. Avy will revalve the stock Evos now and give them the same high/low that the higher end shocks can support, but I think the monarch will probably be a better platform for the riding I like to do. Will post my findings when I have them (likely in a few months when it thaws, unless i get some studded tires)...
     
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    I am switching from Avy DHX 5 coil to Monarch Plus RC3 Debonair on my Ibis. I want moar trail and less enduro.
     
  4. Sandro

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    I went with the DB Inline for my Trance SX, and although i'm only two rides in and still tinkering, it has improved my rear suspension so significantly that the Fox CTD (Evolution) it replaced shouldn't even be lumped into the same product category - where the Fox felt erratic the Inline is incredibly controlled.

    Adjusting the air spring volume is a breeze and the range of damping adjustments is more than wide enough to achieve rather extreme tunes for my particular frame. I thought i might miss the quasi lockout of the CTD, but the climb switch is a far better solution and keeps the rear semi active yet very calm during climbs.

    Here's hoping it holds up long term.
     
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    I think the CTD Evo belongs with the likes of the Judy T2, Indy, Quarda, Proflex Marshmallow etc. Not much has been that bad to my recollection.

     
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    Yup, i might as well have stuck a coil spring coated sausage in there and called it a day. The CTD Evo is a special kind of awful though, and i would know, having owned a Proflex, a Nicolai trombone shock, a Judy DH and a 3G Urtho.

    I can't make any comparisons to a properly valved Monarch, but for my bike and my riding style it seems like a fantastic fit so far.
     
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    "...The CTD Evo is a special kind of awful though, and i would know, having owned a Proflex, a Nicolai trombone shock, a Judy DH and a 3G Urtho... "

    Bad luck or just a boatload of fail?
     
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    Ctd factory isn't any better. Went in for warranty after 2 weeks, the rebuilt one doesn't have near enough damping. 170lb, 250psi, 75% travel on a pump track. Something is wrong. Saving for an inline
     
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    It's just what was available at the time, either privately or through sponsors. Except for the Proflex, all these parts have been ridden to world cup and world champs wins (not to say that they contributed much).

    To me at least, the first suspension product that was actually convincing was the Z1 Bomber.
     
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    Got my CCdbCS yesterday, can't wait to try it out.. swapped it for the dbinline, due to being over the weight limit! DBinline felt good on my mellower trails, but taking it to the bike park or more aggressive trails it just didn't feel right, seemed inconsistent(maybe due to spiking?), but I was at the max psi, and still not getting the right sag... I'm wondering if adding volume spacers can get the dbcs to feel more like the dbinline? Anyone try that?
     
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    How much you weigh fatty?
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    I don't know why but this is the first thing that popped into my head when you said "suited up"

     
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    captainspauldin intrigued by a pole

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    After pinkbike had issues with the Inline while reviewing the same bike, flowmtb runs into the same problems, only moar: http://flowmountainbike.com/tests/tested-specialized-s-works-enduro-650b/

    Has anyone experienced the rebound issues described in both reviews? I'm a little worried about my Inline when it will experience some proper riding for the first time next month.
     
  18. Sandwich

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    I just picked up an inline, I'm not too worried about it. The biggest whiners are "Don't ask" Richard Cunningham over at Pink Bike Action, and the occasional fresh off the shelf unit that doesn't work out of the box. I'm guessing there are some significant teething issues after cane creek discovered that people actually want quality shocks inside small packages, rather than an awkward approximation of the three kinds of riding that people do. I mean, they messed up the up and down arrows on the rebound side annodizing? "oops"

    whatever, it feels better than my fox so far, but the oil surrounding the entire shock area may explain some of that...
     
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    We use both on our demo bikes, I haven't noticed either needing to be serviced more often than the other. No big failures that weren't quickly fixed by cane Creek either.
     
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    i still need to put a CC air shock on the fuel... its gonna be fun.