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Canfield F1 review

Toshi

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MikeD said:
OK, I've been waiting patiently for a review of this, and drauf kann ich nicht laenger warten!

Review, bitte!
i've been riding the f1 frame since mid june, and during that time have logged about a week's worth of shuttled "shore runs" here in oregon, plus 12 days at whistler and 3 on the true north shore. i came into this season with only a little bit of dh experience, having raced the ncs and kamikaze at mammoth in 2000 on a kona stinky, and having owned a uzzi slx in the intervening years. on the other hand my bike handling has been good thanks to years spent messing around at a low sport level on various trials bikes. enough background.

the frame had some teething problems. i didn't like it much at all after my first day out, for instance: some of these reasons were due to my unfamiliarity with such a long beast (its wheelbase is noticeably longer than any other bike in my riding buddies' collective stable), some with my own poor configuration choices and some with the frame itself.

the biggest problem was with chainline. on the first day the chain skipped every time i would apply more than middling torque when in the 3 largest cogs, which, needless to say, was not a confidence inspiring trait when gearing up for difficult trail features. this problem turned out to be solved quite easily, however, by moving the upper pulley (the balfa-esque one) inwards about 4 mm and since then i've had no chainline or skipping issues.

the second obstacle that i had to overcome was getting used to the really long wheelbase. this took a few rides and many a failed attempt to manual the bike in the parking lot (nb: only two riders so far have been able to manual it. i am not one of these two), but now i have come to love the long wheelbase and backwards-then-upwards axle path for the stability and plush suspension action it provides. especially since i have chosen to run a monster t on my bike i have had no problems at all even on the tightest of trails on the north shore.

a final note is that avalanche shocks fit, and craig has all the details if you're interested. while the swinger 6 way originally fitted to my frame provided for exceptional climbing characteristics i have found the avalanche to have a superior feel, both initially and throughout the travel. the best way to describe it is that the avalanche feels very viscous without being sticky at all while the swinger felt more metallic. admittedly i did not experiment at all with the swinger's settings, so more patient owners may come to different conclusions. the avalanche allowed me to have 9" of supple travel that i only know to have bottomed out hard (as in through the bump stop) once, while never feeling harsh or oversprung.

would i get the frame again if given a choice? yes, i would. although i sadly will not be able to ride much dh in the foreseeable future due to schooling constraints the f1 frame has proven to be all it was cracked up to be. as you may recall i came into this looking for a frame with a low standover height and low center of gravity, and my medium f1 met both requirements with ease. more importantly these traits allowed me to trust the bike on every kind of trail, from the choppy braking bumps of whistler to the tight, wet corners of the north shore's finest.

ps: loctite those pivot bolts!





 

syadasti

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You forgot to mention your bike is a prototype and has slightly different geometry and weight than the production version. The geometry is pretty similiar to most popular DH bikes.

I can manual and/or loop out my bike with no problem and I haven't had it for very long - just focus on use your arms mainly.
 

MikeD

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syadasti said:
You forgot to mention your bike is a prototype and has slightly different geometry and weight than the production version. The geometry is pretty similiar to most popular DH bikes.

I can manual and/or loop out my bike with no problem and I haven't had it for very long - just focus on use your arms mainly.
Yeah, one of the things I likes about the F1's specs was the relatively short chainstays and rearward trajectory. Actually considered a BCD on the same grounds...16" or so stays with a longer TT would be very cool for me. I like bikes that are long in the front and short in the back, and I love the high-pivot suspension feel if there's a roller to help out the pedalling.

Somewhat luckily, it's all theory at this point...no new bikes for me anytime soon (at least until I move and find out if I'll be near big mountains for the next few years!)

MD
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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syadasti said:
You forgot to mention your bike is a prototype and has slightly different geometry and weight than the production version. The geometry is pretty similiar to most popular DH bikes.

I can manual and/or loop out my bike with no problem and I haven't had it for very long - just focus on use your arms mainly.
true, mine does have 1/2" longer chainstays (17.5" on mine). as for weight i'm not sure how they differ but my particular frame was weighed on a digital scale at 11.8 lbs with shock, rear axle and chainguide inner plate (which is quite substantial). i don't know the weight built up complete with a 2001 monster and avalanche, but it continually pleasantly surprises people when they pick it up and it's significantly lighter than my buddy's large scream with a 2003 monster ;)

the large chainguide plate. production models don't extend all the way up to the pulley.

 

Bicyclist

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What is the pulley above the cranks for? Is it chain tension or decreased pedal feedback?
 

Toshi

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hucker13 said:
I especially like the road mech... nice touch!
thanks. the pulley also minimizes chain growth, which is the only reason i can get away with a short cage road mech on a 9" bike...
 

UiUiUiUi

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hi Toshi

very intersting review.
you use the bike for quite a different kind of riding then i do.

btw: YES!!! LOCTITE THE PIVOT BOLTS AND DONT FORGET THE SCREWS WHICH TIGHTEN THE BEARINGS IN THE ROCKERS!!!! :)
 

MikeD

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Oct 26, 2001
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Yeah, thanks for this review. I really want one (or a Signature custom geometry), but have to wait for another year or so before finding out if buying a full DH bike will be a worthy investment. Until then, my RFX will do me just fine...