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Turbo Monkey
Feb 14, 2002
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All this talk make me want to order a Jedi but I just started building my M9 and have my PBJ.
 

eatmyshorts

Monkey
Jun 18, 2010
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South OZ
Obviously the suspension is not a perpetual motion machine and does not cause the bike to accelerate on its own accord... even Einstein made some mistakes in describing gravity.. you could excuse anyone lessor making the same mistake in the way they describe what is happening..
Words are fine for describing perception .. and someone is always going to find a way to technicality tear down a perception.. equations on the other hand don’t lie.. much…

E speculation is great, however take the time to understand what designer is trying to achieve from a bike. If the designer is not trying to achieve a bike that you like, obviously you are not going to like it..
 

eatmyshorts

Monkey
Jun 18, 2010
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South OZ
about which part? It would be super awesome if I was wrong about the frame being a perpetual motion machine :)

If you are talking about describing perception, you cant expect everyone here having a physics or maths background - how the hell are they going to describe anything that meets strict scientific linguistics?
 

Killingtonvt

Monkey
Sep 19, 2005
134
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Bellingham, WA
This thread has been VERY amusing!!! That being said, I've owned an '08 and an '09 and I am SO stoked for the changes to the new Jedi... only another month to wait!!!
 

VMARTINEZ

Monkey
May 23, 2005
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Chris and Lance are doing it right. They are building the company slow and on there own dime.
Vaughn
 

Gurney

Chimp
Jan 14, 2010
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Of the three shock options available (Elka, Fox and Avalanche) which one?

I only have experience with Fox, so any input would be appreciated, thanks.
 

Gurney

Chimp
Jan 14, 2010
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What about sizing? I'm 5'11" and usually ride a medium; however, the medium Jedi geometry measures up like a small, IMHO. Thoughts?
 

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Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
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north jersey
What about sizing? I'm 5'11" and usually ride a medium; however, the medium Jedi geometry measures up like a small, IMHO. Thoughts?
im 5 11 as well, i ride a large, and i feel that its smaller than my other bikes, which are all mediums. That said, after spending more time on it, i really happen to like how it fits now, canfield will probably tell you medium, but i happen to like my large (which i THINK sells out the fastest, maybe for this reason?)





size large 2010, 50mm stem, 165 cranks, fork all the way down with a king headset
 

Tetreault

Monkey
Nov 23, 2005
877
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SoMeWhErE NoWhErE
I never even really looked into it until now but ya the sizes seem to be a little smaller then other frames out there I'm 5'10 and like the feel of a smaller ride and always felt i bordered a M/L, but with the medium only having a 21.5 tt i would think that a large would be what i'd go with for sure, as the medium seems really small 21.5"", thats what my street hardtail has for a tt
 

JustMtnB44

Monkey
Sep 13, 2006
855
123
Pittsburgh, PA
Just saw this on the website:

Frames arriving in Mid March – Call to Pre-Order today – before they’re all gone! (Limited production of only 100 frame available.)
Does that mean only 100 frames for 2011 or just for the first batch?
 

blackohio

Generous jaywalker
Mar 12, 2009
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Hellafornia. Formerly stumptown.
Just saw this on the website:



Does that mean only 100 frames for 2011 or just for the first batch?
Right now it's 100 total for the year, but Chris said they might looking into another 50 later on.


On a similar note, I have a 2010 F1 shipping to me and am super stoked to be giving it a shot on one of these. Nothing but good things about this bike is what ive heard.
 

Tetreault

Monkey
Nov 23, 2005
877
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SoMeWhErE NoWhErE
i'd assume bullcrew already has one of those XL's on lockdown. I would love to get one of these this year, hopefully by the time i get my finds together they will still be avaliable
 

Tame Ape

BUY HOPE!!!!!!!
Mar 4, 2003
2,284
1
NYC
Because the Taiwanese factories offer a lot more bang for your buck. Look at an Intense - they largely use monocoque and butted tubes with CNC'd links and dropouts, as far as I'm aware there is no forging or hydroforming, which are both expensive processes. Now check out a Legend for example, for about the same price you're getting hydroformed tubing, two-piece forged BB shell, a shock basement that's forged in 5 different parts, forged links, blah blah. Sure it's expensive, but given that the price is roughly the same as an Intense, you're actually getting a lot more construction technology in it. It's not cheaper, it's just better value.
So I haven't really been nearly as active in recent years on RM, but I want to the further the observation put forth by the Dorpmachine guy. He's right and his observation as well as Socket and his response about the pros of moving production overseas.

The long view is this; overseas production will get increasingly expensive as the Chinese accrue more and more money and grow a biiig middle class. This is the nature of the global beast. At some point overseas manufacturing will cease to have a greater profitability but due to the braintrust/tech/options that've been developed and kept in the area, the industry will stay there.

Personally, I'd love to see a manufacturing sector spring up in Mexico but the USA doesn't care enough to clean up the drugs.

Also, who cares about a damn rearward axle when there are waaay bigger things to consider and you're clearly just going to get some big money bike and flash around to people who could care less. How inane.

Finally, Sikocycles' Big Link weighs at least 70lbs. Use it for squats.
 

Tame Ape

BUY HOPE!!!!!!!
Mar 4, 2003
2,284
1
NYC
Ah, right, that was inner-speak. I just hate it when a topical and interesting discussion gets derailed by brand-whoring and techno-babble
 

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Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,910
47
north jersey
Ah, right, that was inner-speak. I just hate it when a topical and interesting discussion gets derailed by brand-whoring and techno-babble
Well to be honest, what else could i possibly do with my bike, its not like i can use it to race, nor win with it, you guys dont actually ride these do you? :eek:
 

VMARTINEZ

Monkey
May 23, 2005
303
18
I never even really looked into it until now but ya the sizes seem to be a little smaller then other frames out there I'm 5'10 and like the feel of a smaller ride and always felt i bordered a M/L, but with the medium only having a 21.5 tt i would think that a large would be what i'd go with for sure, as the medium seems really small 21.5"", thats what my street hardtail has for a tt
I am also 5'10" and I have had 3 medium bikes from them.
It not as small as a medium Specialized.
VM
 

Tame Ape

BUY HOPE!!!!!!!
Mar 4, 2003
2,284
1
NYC
Well to be honest, what else could i possibly do with my bike, its not like i can use it to race, nor win with it, you guys dont actually ride these do you? :eek:
I'd try to add to the dialogue instead of being the bike riding equivalent of Uggs.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Warsaw :/
I'd try to add to the dialogue instead of being the bike riding equivalent of Uggs.
Hey, uggs are at least warm and well I know 1 girl who for some insane reason looks good in them. We were booth high though so that may have sth to do with my opinion.
 

Gurney

Chimp
Jan 14, 2010
32
0
I never even really looked into it until now but ya the sizes seem to be a little smaller then other frames out there I'm 5'10 and like the feel of a smaller ride and always felt i bordered a M/L, but with the medium only having a 21.5 tt i would think that a large would be what i'd go with for sure, as the medium seems really small 21.5"", thats what my street hardtail has for a tt
I talked to Chris and there was a mistake on their website, the medium has a 22.5" TT.
 

Gurney

Chimp
Jan 14, 2010
32
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Does someone have any ride time on the 2011?

I am torn between the 2011 Jedi and 2011 Devinci Wilson, thoughts?
 

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Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,910
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north jersey
Does someone have any ride time on the 2011?

I am torn between the 2011 Jedi and 2011 Devinci Wilson, thoughts?
I would think the jedi will be the obvious choice, however, id like to know more about where your riding, your skill level, what you plan to do, ect.

The more we know, the more we can help you
 

Gurney

Chimp
Jan 14, 2010
32
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I would think the jedi will be the obvious choice, however, id like to know more about where your riding, your skill level, what you plan to do, ect.

The more we know, the more we can help you
I've been riding DH since 1995, most of it in Vancouver, Squamish and Whistler.

Skill level is always subjective but I can hold my own on most trails.
 

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Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,910
47
north jersey
Ill say this, i dont know much about those specific places you live, but the jedi is very good in the rough trails, its not bad on the smooth, but that is not really doing it justice, you will really only benefit on the jedi in rough terrain and even more so with racing. I dont know what the terrain is like up there, but if its the "typical north shore from the videos" and "a-line" it doesnt look very rough, that said, i have never ridden there. The jedi is supposed to squat under braking, it may, i dont really notice it, i dont happen to think it has the best braking out there, its certainly not the worst. I mention this because of all the shore videos having muddy fall line trails. In a nutshell, if your riding A line and skinny ladders all day, the jedi isnt for you (not that it cant be) I would take the devinci for those things, but thats only based off perception off of a place i have never been to, in another country. Pictures and other things can help me help you more


This is the type of terrain i got mine for
http://www.pinkbike.com/video/77804/

 
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