I can potentially get the mazda 3 5 door for $500 over invoice but I'm trying to compare things here... help....
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LOL! I was thinking the same thing (well not about the city).as noted in post #5 it's edmUnds, not edmonds. edmonds is a small city near seattle .
www.edmunds.com
No it isn't. There are various sites that explain it, here is a quick googled site that goes over it:What is invoice? I can't be what the dealer buys the car for? To me it just seems like some arbitrary number the dealer gets to confuse buyers and not sell anything to low so they can say the famous like "I can't sell it below invoice".
Just reading that site makes me hate car dealers even more. Used and new I just have had only bad experiences. Even my latest BMW and most expensive car so far and the worst dealer experience.No it isn't. There are various sites that explain it, here is a quick googled site that goes over it:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/car4.htm
Well that and also the fact that cars are never an investment. Preowned cars are best as far as cost/benefit but new and shiny has its attractions...
Honestly, you can do better than Costco.I'm not sure if this help you out but I've had great luck buying cars through the Costco program (if you happen to be a member). You'll work with a specific salesperson at a specific dealership that has agreed to honor the Costco pricing. They show you invoice and unless the car is in really high demand, the Costco price is ~ invoice if not a bit less (significantly less on certain cars). There is no haggling involved, which I think is nice. For my sister, it was worth more than the price of the Costco membership alone to get a great price and not have to negotiate and deal with pushy salespeople. Since the price is locked in you either take it or leave it and there is no pressure.
Both my gf and sister have gotten cars that way and it was much more pleasant than when I bought my car and sat there for hours between "rounds" of negotiations.
Also, I believe kbb.com has invoice prices as well.
I don't think the dealer I bought from was really dieing to get it off the lot. It seems like half the population over here owns tacomas or frontiers. Gas mileage seems to be of low concern on most peoples minds.good input everyone... I have a gut feeling that I'm going to get much less of a deal on a car that's getting 30 mpg than a TRUCK!!! If I was selling a Tacoma double cab right night, I'd do anything to get it off the lot, too!
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That's funny. I bought the same truck but in a TRD sport.I don't know much about the Mazda, but 500 over doesn't seem like the greatest deal.
I bought a 2007 tacoma double cab TRD offroad 2wd with tow package blah blah blah.
MSRP was 28000
I paid 22300 before TTL
Invoice was 24,000 almost exactly
Yeah, you can walk into most dealers and do better than Costco.Honestly, you can do better than Costco.
Then again, I believe only fairy money can be exchanged for and FJ.stupid to say that you will pay 'invoice'... do a little home work and come up with a real dollar figure first. Then stick to it in the negoitations.
'Invoice' can be minipulated.
Naming your price cant be.
yeah, yeah, yeah! i know. i get going and don't pay attention. the ramblings of a crazy old man...paragraphs man, paragraphs...