Well tonight I broke my Easton EC70 DH bar. It was a good wreck but.... I was surprised that it broke. It broke right at the C clamp of the front Hayes brake. I tipped off a skinny and the grip stuck into the ground about 4 inches and snapped the bar. The funny thing was that the brake pod had JUST been replaced by the LBS and this was the first ride since they put the brake lever back on the bars. I think the LBS might have over tightend the C clamp. Oh well back to the PRO TAPERS.... Ill see if maybe the shop will warrenty them. They are a real good shop so maybe he didnt tighted the C clamp down too tight. Im not blaming anyone on this one. It was my fault that I wrecked but I just wonder if the clamp was too tight. The bar doesnt look smashed where it broke. Will Easton warrenty it? Should I even bother?
Carbon failed
- Thread starter Kntr
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Call easton. worst case you waste the coin in the call. Maybe you get a warranty and sell it on e-bay to pay for pro taper.
my easton carbon bars lasted almost 6 months on my dh bike and I had the XC version...I crashed and broke them and Easton still warrantied them....I sold them because I went to the 1.5 set up or else I'd still be running them....the vibration dampening is a big plus....D
Yup. They break like a twig. It happened to my friend, and his EA90 carbon bar snapped in half when he messed up on a 2 footer drop. The end result: both of his arms fly forward and the broken bar went into his stomach. He was lying there for like 10 minutes having to catch his breath... could've been alot worse if he'd gone fast like I do.chicodude01 said:
He got his new EA90 bar via warranty and sold it immediately and got a Weyless XC riser bar. The bar is still going strong after 1.5 years of abuse.
-CAbiker
FYI, I don't go near carbon bars because of their tendency to snap if you land wrong on a big drop... and I've seen 2 Trek OCLV frames sadly sitting in the shops with broken BB's in a period of 1 month. Both frames were awaiting warranty replacements....
you know what happened... i bet the bike shop tightened your brake up too much, you should ask them if they did. Don't think i'll be able to make Fernie unfortunately, but we'll have to plan a trip up there sometime before the end of the season. i'll be in the valley all next week though doing work so i'll give you a call.
I have been running the FSA DH carbon all year, and it has held up.
DW asked me how I liked it, and I said well, it has not broke off and stuck
in my neck yet, so it gets 5 stars.
It has survived a few crashes with no problems, but I am not sure if I actually have smacked the bar itself hard.
DW asked me how I liked it, and I said well, it has not broke off and stuck
in my neck yet, so it gets 5 stars.
It has survived a few crashes with no problems, but I am not sure if I actually have smacked the bar itself hard.
I'll stick to aluminum thank you.
EA series bars are aluminium.... if it was an EC90, yeah his super-light xc only bar snapped doing drops, BFD... People snap oclv frames doing big drops, OMFG! really? huhhhhcali4niabiker said:
Carbon bars are awesome, but you gotta install them correctly and use them for they purpose they were designed for.
Like not using XC bars for DH, unless your smooth like Nico.
Carbon will break at the clamps probably 75% of the time, almost always from over tightening the stem or levers. Scratches or nicks from rocks will usually cause the rest of the failures. (be careful of stems or cnc brake levers that have sharp edges like say a Thomson stem or Hope levers)
Carbon has a fatigue life that will outlast every other steel or alloy bar made, if your careful why not use it?
Like not using XC bars for DH, unless your smooth like Nico.
Carbon will break at the clamps probably 75% of the time, almost always from over tightening the stem or levers. Scratches or nicks from rocks will usually cause the rest of the failures. (be careful of stems or cnc brake levers that have sharp edges like say a Thomson stem or Hope levers)
Carbon has a fatigue life that will outlast every other steel or alloy bar made, if your careful why not use it?
HOW,
I see you posted a 6am. Were you just getting home or getting up for the day?
Ill try and get them warrentied and then sell them. Does anyone want a BRAND new EC70 DH bar for REAL cheap delivered?
I wonder if maybe Easton would send me a different bar instead?
I see you posted a 6am. Were you just getting home or getting up for the day?
Ill try and get them warrentied and then sell them. Does anyone want a BRAND new EC70 DH bar for REAL cheap delivered?
I wonder if maybe Easton would send me a different bar instead?
ssaddict said:
Exactly. Logic prevails!
oh so true....DRD said:Exactly. Logic prevails!
Kanter said:HOW,
I see you posted a 6am. Were you just getting home or getting up for the day?
Ill try and get them warrentied and then sell them. Does anyone want a BRAND new EC70 DH bar for REAL cheap delivered?
I wonder if maybe Easton would send me a different bar instead?
ill take 'em.
ill use them on my xc bike.
I love threads like this.
Carbon failed. In a crash.
Carbon XC bars are prone to fail. Doing drops.
There is a reason carbon bars are not normally marketed for freeriding.
I'll stick with cro-mo, thank you very much. Damn fine bar material.
Carbon failed. In a crash.
Carbon XC bars are prone to fail. Doing drops.
There is a reason carbon bars are not normally marketed for freeriding.
I'll stick with cro-mo, thank you very much. Damn fine bar material.
For my friend, it snapped right at the area where the shifter pod was, and it was not even on that tight. So, it was a piece of bar sticking about 4" from the stem clamp that went right into his stomach.ssaddict said:
I even sat down and carefully watched him put the bike together and warned him about the consequences of the carbon bars ahead of time but he didn't listen until it was too late. I made sure that the bolts were not too tight because of the history of the bars snapping... yeah, he was pretty busted up with a huge bloody bruise on his stomach. Not cool.
I'm not bashing the bars, I really think its a cool idea (tons less vibration and light) but its the consequence that results from a minor screwup such as a two foot drop that scares me.
Yeah, my buddy is more of an XC rider, not a freerider like most of y'all on this post. My friend is 6'3 and 215 lbs, so that could do the bars like a twig, especially when his weight was thrown at the front end all at once from a minor mishap which happens to all of us every once in a while... I even screw up small drops every now and then and its nice to have a peace of mind that it won't break.
Carbon and MTB dont mix... carbon and DH REALLY dont mix IMHO.
something about being careful and riding a DH bike don't seem to go hand in hand. I think I'd probably use a carbon bar on a xc bike since my xc bikes tend not to see the dirt and trees so up close as my DH bike does.
I use Easton carbon bars on my "cross stuntry" bike and have had no issues. They are the middle thickness model ie; not the ultra light XC or the super beef DH but the in between...
I do have aluminum Pro Tapers on my DH bike but I would run Easton DH carbon bars if I had 'em...
For the record aluminum is known for it's propensity to fatigue and fail. Handlebar manufacturers recommend getting new bars every season or so depending on the circumstances.
Carbon is super sweet!
I do have aluminum Pro Tapers on my DH bike but I would run Easton DH carbon bars if I had 'em...
For the record aluminum is known for it's propensity to fatigue and fail. Handlebar manufacturers recommend getting new bars every season or so depending on the circumstances.
Carbon is super sweet!
golgiaparatus said:
....unless you're Sanjay
not gonna touch this one, his bike is falling apart at the seams...MtnbikeMike said:....unless you're Sanjay
no sh*t?punkassean said:
I was thinking the same thing. I crash when do dh....how can I be careful when my bike is flying into a tree? The idea of carbon sounds good...but being careful is almost impossible.Zaskar Rider said:
i could be mistaken, but wasnt it only at the top tube that the carbon came unglued and on a fairly nasty crash? 'just like breaking an aluminum frame but its fixable(okay, not EXACTLY like breaking an alu frame, but you get the point)punkassean said:
Yeah but mine isn't, and it's got far more miles than his does. Infact it survived 3 rather nasty get offs while I was at Schweitzer a couple weeks ago with not so much as a scratch.punkassean said:
Wish I could say the same for my carbon bars, they got scratched to the point I don't feel safe running them anymore... but they lasted through qualifing and finals even with all those nasty G-outs up there.
I wouldn't trade my BCD for anything. It makes for a light build at 39lb, even with 2.8 and 2.5 michy's.
I'm not so sure that's what happened...maybe BCD can clear some things up????Djohnbrittain said:
This is tricky.MikeD said:
I break everything carbon, so I don't go near the stuff myself. I know that carbon is stronger, but for some reason I have never broken an aluminum bar or seatpost. But I have a box full of broken carbon parts.
Easton said they probably wouldn't warranty Loco's bar because the crack was under the brake clamp.
yard sale sanjay stacked abd blew his front tire off, bend his bars, broke hisBMXman said:
hayes lever and broke ONE side of a under renforced area where the DOWN tube meets the bb area. it was laced with carbon is holding up fine. he is sending the frame back so i can keep it under him, a hard task which no one else in the bike industry is willing to take.
he is not a customer, he is a freind. i gave him the frame to ride and i will keep it together for him for as long as he wants to ride my bikes.
As far as I know, Sanjay has broken every bike he has owned... and a few he hasn't.
His riding style is... lets just say, somewhat abusive.
His riding style is... lets just say, somewhat abusive.
With all due respect,bcd said:
I have seen the bike up close and personal. It did break at the down-tube/BB area junction, it was repaired (rather crude looking) and was also holding up to repeated abuse very well. The bike was also broken at the rivets (kinda surprised to see rivets?) at the top-tube/seat-tube junction. This was not repaired yet and Sanjay was only worsening it by continuing to ride it that way, which in no way can be helped by the manufacturer. Keep in mind Sanjay subjects bikes to tremendous stresses and he also just "slides by" on maintenance, meaning that by my definitions of a working bike, his bike doesn't even function. However he manages to smoke and out-style just about everybody on a bike that technically "isn't fit to ride". He is more than capable of working on his stuff, he just chooses not to in an interest of simplicity I suppose. I agree that he is prone to breaking frames and components it just seemed that this particular frame was failing somewhat pre-maturely. And it also seemed that a few of the construction methods (aluminum pop-rivets) were sub-par for the course.
him in whistler vidgrimm said:Im lost, but who is Sanjay??
alex, i commend you on even attempting to keep a bike under sunjay's abusive ass.
I love the kid, but holy hell, abuse isn't even the word. He is a rolling customer service/warranty nightmare! So fast...
I love the kid, but holy hell, abuse isn't even the word. He is a rolling customer service/warranty nightmare! So fast...
AMEN!Transcend said:
Alex, I truly meant...
"with all due respect"