[jonKranked]

So I blew mine up today. Bearings cracked. Dang. For a replacement, what's the compatibility? Are they all compatible? (My guess is no) The hub is from a stock Kink Apex (2007), no markings whatsoever, so I'm guessing its generic. FWIW Its a 9Tx14mm. I was looking at Dan's Comp and the Blackout Driver looks almost identical to mine (would also make sense since Blackout is Kink's N.America distributor).

Any info would be greatly appreciated!!

 

[redclover]

Take it to a good bmx shop... might be the same as odyysey

 

[jerseydirt]

yeah there are a couple sweet bmx only shops in nj

 

[Stoked]

just the bearings broke or the actual mechanism? you can get replacment bearings if thats what ya need.

 

[jonKranked]

just the bearings broke or the actual mechanism? you can get replacment bearings if thats what ya need.

yea just the bearings. the pawls are fine. Wasn't sure if it would be worth the effort to replace the bearings.

 

[Stoked]

yea just the bearings. the pawls are fine. Wasn't sure if it would be worth the effort to replace the bearings.

i dont really hear of blown driver bearings in cassettes too often. freecoasters yes. i just blew out my khe freecoaster 9T driver bearings (super tiny 6802 bearing). i picked up 2 from dans for 5 ea.
http://www.danscomp.com/437060.php?cat=PARTS
the number you need is written on the seal of bearing. could be worth it, drivers are around $50. how long did the driver last you so far? i guess that would determine if its worth it or not. btw you could also bring the bearing to your local hardware store or bearing house, they could sort you out some new ones.

 

[jonKranked]

i dont really hear of blown driver bearings in cassettes too often. freecoasters yes. i just blew out my khe freecoaster 9T driver bearings (super tiny 6802 bearing). i picked up 2 from dans for 5 ea.
http://www.danscomp.com/437060.php?cat=PARTS
the number you need is written on the seal of bearing. could be worth it, drivers are around $50. how long did the driver last you so far? i guess that would determine if its worth it or not. btw you could also bring the bearing to your local hardware store or bearing house, they could sort you out some new ones.

yea, it was the actual cassette bearings. Just the inner one, not the outer:

Go figure. That's why I asked, wasn't sure if it'd be worth it to even bother.


edit: It's about 7 or 8 months old.

 

[sittingduck]

Get some new bearings, replace them both! Pretty simple to do, unless the outer casing of the old bearings is all that's left.... it's a real bitch to get them out if that happens.

 

[jonKranked]

Get some new bearings, replace them both! Pretty simple to do, unless the outer casing of the old bearings is all that's left.... it's a real bitch to get them out if that happens.

Yea the outer casing is all that's left. I'll give it a shot to see. Thanks for the info everyone.

 

[jonKranked]

update: was able to get the old bearing casings out. New bearings here I come. Plus extras. I'm half tempted to order an extra driver and keep it in my riding bag in case this sh*t ever happens again.

 

[sittingduck]

update: was able to get the old bearing casings out. New bearings here I come. Plus extras. I'm half tempted to order an extra driver and keep it in my riding bag in case this sh*t ever happens again.

Right on, good to hear.

 

[Stoked]

i just got my driver bearings too. it wouldnt hurt to pry the seal off the new ones and pack more grease in em. they dont go out of their way to fully pack these - just fyi.

 

[jonKranked]

i just got my driver bearings too. it wouldnt hurt to pry the seal off the new ones and pack more grease in em. they dont go out of their way to fully pack these - just fyi.

what'd you use to pry 'em off? tiny flatblad?

6802's right?

 

[Stoked]

what'd you use to pry 'em off? tiny flatblad?

6802's right?

that could work. may need something with more of a point, i used a file from a swiss army knife. yup 6802.

 

[jonKranked]

soooooooooooooooooooooo it happened again. Its still functional, but I heard a familiar mini crack out of the back end during a 3hr skate park sesh the other night. Checked it when I got home, sure enough the middle bearing is starting to feel rough. I wound up replacing the entire driver with an Odyssee from the LBS last time, so that leads me to believe the issue may lie with the spindle? any thoughts? could it be something else? Or am I just being too much of a hack rider? FWIW each time I heard the "bearing crack noise" I was pedaling moderately hard, driveside foot forward.

 

[Stoked]

what odyssey 9T? their new drivers are not available yet, only as complete wheel. is it the odyssey 10T? they say the new driver will last longer. http://www.odysseybmx.com/dailyword/2008/12/9t-driver/#more-2128

sucks regardless. i guess go up to a 10T...

 

[jonKranked]

what odyssey 9T? their new drivers are not available yet, only as complete wheel. is it the odyssey 10T? they say the new driver will last longer. http://www.odysseybmx.com/dailyword/2008/12/9t-driver/#more-2128

sucks regardless. i guess go up to a 10T...

idk, I guess its an older driver then? Its definitely 9T, and definitely Odyssey.


edit: I wonder if there's going to be a way to retrofit the needle bearings into the older driver? I seriously doubt it, but it'd be nice.

 

[ServeEm]

Is ur chain line lined up str8? Or was your hub nuts not on snug? I ride ody wheels on all my bikes and I'm pretty rough. I grind 90% of the time when I ride and only went through one set of driver bearings. I replaced the hub bearings twice with a long period in between.

Yea the new needle bearing drivers only go down to 10t.

 

[jonKranked]

Yea my chainline is straight. The hub nuts were snug too. So I'm starting to wonder if its the spindle. Also, the hub isn't an Odyssey, its some generic hub that came on my bike (got it as a complete). I've been considering building new wheels anyways, so this might be a good excuse.

Uh, the new needle bearing drivers are definitely available as 9T. Its the title of the article on Odyssey's site.

 

[Stoked]

ratchet to a rollcage or 7ka! that would be luscious.

if you blow the ratchet driver out than you need a medal haha. ratchet's only 10t atm.

 

[jonKranked]

what's so special about the ratchets?

 

[Stoked]

20 mm hollow axle, 14mm femaled bolts (peg friendly), monster non drive bearings, needle roller and plain bearings in driver. lhd/rhd compatible without extra parts. this thing should last!

http://www.odysseybmx.com/dailyword/2008/09/ratchet-hub/

 

[jonKranked]

oh word that looks hot.