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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Biffff, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. Biffff

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    For those who have bought a Cane Creek Double Barrel aftermarket, who did you purchase it from (direct or a distributor,) and how much did you pay? I'm thinking about retiring my DHX and trying one.
     

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  3. Alloy

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    I got one from Go-ride for $650. It's easily the best shock I've owned. ...Now I know how the moto guys can case 90ft triples and ride away. It's not possible to get bucked from a hard landing using this shock. ...Well I guess if you really suck :busted:
     
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    DAVE NOOOOOOOO!!!!! You can't do that! not unless I get one too that is!
     
  5. Biffff

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    Sorry Dude.
     
  6. bizutch

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    I'd recommend going direct.

    Call Malcolm Hadley at 828-684-3551 and order direct. It will give you the chance to get direct feedback on your particular application and to make sure you get the right set of shims to mate to your particular frame.

    Tell him Butch sent you. :thumb:
     
  7. Biffff

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    Sounds good man. Thanks for the info.
    It would be going on a Giant Faith. Roughly 2.8 to 1 leverage ration.
     
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    CCDB is gonna be my next shock as well. In terms of shock bushings, are they sourced from Cane Creek or the frame fabricator?
     
  9. Eurotrash

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    Cane creek will send you the correct spring with the shock
     
  10. Dogboy

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    Cane Creek will supply the reducers. They use the ball-joint reducers up to a certain width and then go to very slick 3-piece alloy reducers for wider mounts.
     
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    Sick. So you just have to tell them what frame you have basically? What if its a one-off frame or low production qty frame? Just the width specs?
     
  12. Alloy

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    Mine came with one full sleeve 3 piece aluminum bushing for the top, but the bottom had the old style two piece aluminum deal... I was a bit dissapointed because this type wears out DU bushings like crazy... Basically I wont run them. I'll have to buy new ones or use the ones already on the frame. What type did the rest of you get?
     
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    My shock body has heim joints on both ends...no bushings.

    That is for a Turner 6 pack, so 23mm mounts.
     
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    For the narrow mounts, CC to my knowledge work fine & typically come with spherical mounting upto ~23mm.

    On wider mounts it puts a bigger amount of load on the shock bolt.

    That's my guess why your shock (Davep's and Alloys one end of his shock) came with the heim joints. I"m sure if you wanted the three piece they could get them for you if requested.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that if you order direct from them, and ask for bushings, they will do it. I have spherical bearings in mine and haven't had any problems at all..
     
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    Is that $650 w/ ti spring?

    how big of a difference is it really over a fox dhx? I've been debating getting a ti spring for my dhx or selling it and getting a ccdb.
     
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    That is with a steel spring only.
     
  18. Alloy

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    No ti spring, the best upgrade I've ever made.

    Cane Creek uses the phrase energy absorber to describe dampening... That's the best term I've heard and they are absolutely right. You can jump into some crazy ****, and the shock with just absorb everything leaving you in complete control. My first time out I cased a 25ft step down by about 2ft... When I came back and looked I didn't believe it was my tire mark. I hardly felt the landing, the shock just took it.
     
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    Yeah call Malcom, he's a great guy.
     
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    So is the rebound like the 5the shocks that everyone was racing about a few years ago or do compression and rebound differ from both a 5th and dhx 5? Those are the only 2 that I am familiar with.

    How much extra is the ti spring?
     
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    It's far different... Cane Creek has a pretty good explaination on their website.

    The idiot's explanation is the Olins design creates much more oil flow than a conventional shock.

    The paper work that comes with it also does a really good job of explaining the adjustments.
     
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    Best shock you'll ever put on a bike. The dampening is amazing and the shock makes the roughest trails just that much smoother compared to other shocks.
     
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    well that's what dampening is....energy absorber...now try to convince everyone else
     
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    damping...
     
  25. Biffff

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    I'm running a Ti spring on my DHX. If I get a CCDB hopefully the Ti spring will work on it. I'll have to check if there are any differences in the ID and OD.
     
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    cane creek quoted me $850usd for the ti spring version and $650usd for the regular steel spring unit...its worth the price though...too bad it won't work on my sunday...
     
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    wont work, sorry.


    for ????


    go to the CC site and check out the DB page. It is quite different that the 5th or the DHX. The piston has VERY stiff shims (only open in extreme events) so the piston acts for the most part like it is solid.

    Rather than the piston pushing through the oil (only oil going to the resevior is the shaft displacement volume), the piston pushes all the oil into/through the res. and through circuitry in the resevior that can control high and low speed fluid movement independently (reboundand compression). The oil is returned behind the main piston after it passes through the resevior.

    The big deal is you are able to adjust the preload or opening force on the poppet valves, unlike a typical shock where the shim opening force and shim stiffness are fixxed. This allows adjustment of the high to low speed transfer point.....something that usually only adjustable by a rebuild in a 'normal' shock.
     
  28. Alloy

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    You're right, but I do believe in this shock and the guys at Cane Creak are pretty cool.
     
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    I understand that it has loads of adjustment capability, but I'm wondering if I were to get my DHX PUSH'ed if then it would perform the same... although not have the adjustment range should I decide to change it in the future or for different trails.
     
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    So, basically the Cane Creek is awsome.
     
  32. Slater

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    Ding ding ding!

    Go figure that Ohlins is the winningest damper in motorsports history so you can bet the DB is the jam.

    Their 4-way dampers for LeMans cars are around $2k each, so $650 is a steal.
     
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    The guys at cane creek are beyond helpful and very cool. They helped me fit and tune a cloud nine shock in to a UAV for my senior project. I can only imagine what would have happened if I had called fox.

    Im waiting until next year to buy a new shock but as of now i think the CCDB is it the service and quality seem unmatched.
     
  34. Biffff

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    My Ti spring is a Manitou, Does this make a difference??????
     
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    I've seen them work with Mantiou ti springs. The problem is you're probably 50lbs over what you need once you move over to the CCDB.
     
  36. Biffff

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    ^^^^^maybe , maybe not. I did some searches, and the consenses is that you need multiple springs to experiment with. There was some riders who hated the recommended spring and went with the slightly heavier one used on their old shock. This is why people are hesitant to invest the $200 on the Ti initially. I'll just be happy if my Ti fits. That doesn't mean I'll use it, but if the recomended spring feels to soft then I will.