The clamps don't fail. There's a section that develops a hairline crack but there's other material around it, the levers don't move at all. They ship them with the alloy ones now, previously they would just send you another set of clamps if you emailed them.
Yes. Notice how right now, XT has gone back to 4 pistons. What is the next big thing the lizards have planned for us? DUAL PISTONS! You read it hear first.
When the brake price includes a visit to a dentist I don't think they qualify as cheap anymore.
Now find a guy that sells them. Though I think they might be overkill for a trailbike
I never had problems with them. The problems I've seen with new ones are still smaller than with POS Avids and lower end Maguras.
my original set of those are STILL alive and kicking in CO.
What doesn't have problems then?You will
It's not that they have problems, it's that they have an inherent design flaw (which inevitably guarantees them) and that the specific kind of problem means that specifically in the sketchiest situations, you get no braking. With no warning.
When did it start? I have old 4 pot saints and they have no problems. Ive encountered what you mention in my old formula oro's but nowhere else.
Anywhere from within 6 months to 2 years. Just to be clear I'm not talking about one pair of brakes here. I'm talking around 12 pairs. Between dirtjumper, trail bike(s) and dh bike over the last 6 years, I've warranteed XTs SLX and Saints, and bled them all to death.
So this means mostly newer models? Some seal dissolving? What could be the cause?
The industry has always been hit or miss. I'm just confused who makes reliable brakes now. I know that hopes get good reviews now but the price on them is a bit steep
I don't even know where to begin. I guess I was assuming you'd seen all the discussion on these things here.
It's pretty much anything with ceramic pistons (eventually they will leak), and/or anything with a servo wave lever (the insides wear out and they get sticky / stop returning).
Exactly. Rebuilding isn't an option because they don't sell the parts.
AND also rub horribly!
One these years you guys will recognize all the mad knowledge I've dropped on this place.
One of the bikes I tested recently had new Codes but I wasn't really blown away by their power. And thats compared to V4s which aren't crazy powerful either. Actually I've seen waaaaay too many Guide levers fail for me to recommend anything from SRAM for a long time.
Yep at my shop I warranty or rebuild 5 Sram brakes for every Shimano.
Do a full rebuild with what? Shitmano won’t supply seals or rebuild kits. I give their reps shit at races, since they just expect you to “wait till failure”, which could be at a critical moment.
For that price I can hunt for used hopes.
That was more about my personal brake replacement situation than your predicament, a complete set of MT5s for 147€ is still not bad though. But if you are going to sell what sounds like more of an everyday than a downhill bike, why not just get SLXs or Deores and let someone else's dentist deal with the aftermath?
Yeah that's the plan. I will ride it for 3 months then sell the bike and get something bigger/newer. So i'm looking at Deores but it's good to read about brakes since I'm finally not dirt poor and will be updating my stable but at least now I know the best way for big bikes is just getting a ton of Hope V2's, Shimano M810s and not buy anything new.
