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Cheap Carbon DH frame

Lelandjt

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Apr 4, 2008
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Anyone see this catalog carbon DH frame? It's the same as KHS's frame which is well reviewed but a little porky so carbon will be a welcome upgrade. I wonder if KHS will have this in their 2013 line or how a US rider could get a cheap Astro badged version.
 

frango

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Jun 13, 2007
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Yes, we've all seen it on pics from Eurobike ;>
Some companies will certainly rebrand it... but, as, apparently, none, besides Astro, has shown it during Eurobike with different name, we will probably not see it in 2013 range...
We have to wait for Interbike, though.
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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Warsaw :/
As much as I understand companies not wanting to go too light with their first carbon frame if the weight differance not noticeable why should we even care?
 

Dogboy

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Apr 12, 2004
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That Astro was shown at the Tapei bike show back in March. Looks good up close, surprised no one has picked it up/re-badged it yet.
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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Indeed. If these weights are legit the weight difference between the carbon and the aluminium version of the demo is negligible: http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/07/16/2013-specialized-mountain-bikes-complete-overview-actual-weights/

I think their motive is also to come out with a step by step carbonized rear-triangle so that they still sell frames.
To be honest I really hope I will be able to test the antidote for the bike mag i work for since the weight is really nice and supposedly the frame is very durable. Though I'm yet to meet someone using the carbon one without a bro deal but I had a ****ty season so I've met few riders anyway.
 

tabletop84

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Nov 12, 2011
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I'm currently thinking about selling my tues ltd. and picking up the carbon one since my season is over due to a shoulder injury. But I need to get a pic of a proto or something because in that render-image the frame looks rather ugly compared to the aluminium-version.
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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I'm currently thinking about selling my tues ltd. and picking up the carbon one since my season is over due to a shoulder injury. But I need to get a pic of a proto or something because in that render-image the frame looks rather ugly compared to the aluminium-version.
No problems with how the LTD feels with the CCDB? 2 locals have theirs and they complain. They aren't the shapest tools though.
 

supercow

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Feb 18, 2009
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No problems with how the LTD feels with the CCDB? 2 locals have theirs and they complain. They aren't the shapest tools though.
That's most likely just down to not being able to understand what the CCDB does.
 

tabletop84

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Nov 12, 2011
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Well I have no comparison to other shocks on the frame too but I'm not having problems.

the philosophy of cc is to ride a soft spring with much damping. I made the 88 a bit more linear and added about two to 3 clicks more lowspeed rebound to the damper, les hsc (all from the basic setup) since I'm a light rider and I'm definately faster than on my old rig.

Buddies with demos and propain rage with simliar specs were impressed of the tues.

The bike ploughs really well but doesn't feel dead. I rode a few other bikes back-to-back namely a demo 1 and a propain rage with a simliar spec and (probably due to ergonomic reasons) felt most at home on the tues. The demo is really good but I didn't like the boxxer at all. Felt like a wooden stick.

Your buddies should focus on Lowspeed-rebound damping and maybe add another springrate and experiment with that a bit. Lsr has the biggest influence on how the bike feels. Or they can pick up a cheap vivid or kage since with that shock the bike gets all the rave reviews but I doubt that the ccedb is the problem here since everyone else seems happy with it.
 
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Sandwich

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twas'nt there some issue with importing them due to patent infringement on the dw-link? That's why the KHS rebrand is only sold in canadia, and not the US.